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Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 8, 2008 18:18

... of Pythagoras and Socrates didnt already know? The truth of things? Oxymoron. Only the truth of the observer exists. The confusion of this fact comes about because of levels of common observation and the mutual confirmation thereof. The history books are full of scientists being confronted by this spiritual reality. BOfL - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -
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Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 8, 2008 18:06

... to increase the objectivity in the subjectivity. And as a result progressively recognises that truth is subjective. The search has always been an inward search. There is nowhere else to look. There is a common thread here that suggests that the satisfaction in 'doing science' is somehow contradictory to spiritual understanding. No more than it is to 'running on the beach' BOfL
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Author: ta
Date: Aug 7, 2008 13:51

...of something. Of course -- which is why thought is necessary for communicating about...confusion inevitably arises). And which is why talking about such things is almost..., expectations, and "education". Which is why one must clear out their ...ego-identification (everyone look at how "spiritual" I am because I meditate and... crystals, hang out with other "spiritual" people, and other such nonsense)....
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Author: ta
Date: Aug 6, 2008 09:50

...On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:28:51 -0700 (PDT), ta <padl...@nc.rr.com> wrote: That moment that "you" disappear -- when the majestic mountain peak captures your attention -- is the kind of spiritual experience I'm referring to. Or maybe it's more subtle, like simply focusing on your breath. Experiencing "now" is what I'm talking about, in whatever "form" that may take. "Sometimes...
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Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 6, 2008 08:47

...to the realities of the Universe. All the while they are heckled and derided by Spiritual mystics who claim to achieve more than scientific understanding by conjuring up feel-good 'solutions...Canute was demonstrating that even the king could not intefere? A good way to recognise a spiritually realized person, is he will never participate in heckling. Of course, heckling can be confused...
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Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 6, 2008 08:31

On Aug 6, 4:26 pm, "THE BORG" <b...@heaven.co.uk> wrote: Why bother to define it? You either know what this is or you do not. If you do not - do not bother. THE BORG And your point in communicating this?. Mozart knew music. What was the point of performing it? BOfL
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Author: zinnic
Date: Aug 6, 2008 08:20

...wishes it were. Yep! Science is a dedicated activity in which humans labor to refine their approximations to the realities of the Universe. All the while they are heckled and derided by Spiritual mystics who claim to achieve more than scientific understanding by conjuring up feel-good 'solutions', Solutions that, like King Canute, must retreat in the face of the advancing tide of science ...
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Author: Errol
Date: Aug 6, 2008 00:58

... Language and reason are not to be discarded in the realm of spirituality though, obviously (although many "religious" folk do make ... ideas and emotions but as the old saying goes, sticks and stones... Spirituality, in it's truest sense, is beyond systems and reason and analysis and thinking -- which is why science will always fall short of uncovering the ...
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Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 6, 2008 00:29

...  Nostradamus' prophecies! No need or point in prophecising from a spiritual (NOt RELIGOUS) perspective. So I dont add to your confusion, mysticism and spirituality are not the same. I know I dont often mention this,...big bang, or is that just scientific conjecture? Of course the spiritual masters have spoken for eons about what is now scientific speculation,...
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Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 6, 2008 00:22

...> Language and reason are not to be discarded in the realm of spirituality though, obviously (although many "religious" folk do make that ... ideas and emotions but as the old saying goes, sticks and stones... Spirituality, in it's truest sense, is beyond systems and reason and analysis and thinking -- which is why science will always fall short of uncovering the great ...
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