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Author: z
Date: Aug 19, 2008 00:55

... Pelton wheel can approach an electric motor's 95+%% efficiency. In sharp contrast all single ... running on it's "sweet spot" rpm. Why can't anyone do much about the...> The real cycle, however, looks more like a paramecium. В The nice sharply...parasitical losses and electric motors start to look pretty. Bret Cahill internal combustion engines have that unfortunate torque ...
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Author: Rob Dekker
Date: Aug 17, 2008 19:38

..., is a mistake, at best. Electricity specifically being something wide open to ... helps a little bit in fuel efficiency (partial regenerative braking mostly) but it ...and runs much more efficient, and also the stronger electric motor/generators can...and this would immediately increase the (electric) driving range, and NOT compromise on... for scientific papers that explain why they are so far off ...
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Author: Eeyore
Date: Aug 22, 2008 08:25

...from power plants. Thus the heat is not really wasted. It's brilliantly simple. And more should be done along these lines. Yet why do the 'greens' just want more taxes, wind turbines and hopelessly inefficiencent and expensive solar farms ? Because they just want to change our lifestyle, not make it more efficient. Graham
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Author: Rod Speed
Date: Aug 16, 2008 11:19

... problematic but it seems a safe bet that this is because efforts at storing it more efficiently have been systematically shut down. There is nothing more important about this issue. Locking in anything, particularly power generation..., is a mistake, at best. That isnt being done. Electricity specifically being something wide open to new discovery as ...
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Author: Rod Speed
Date: Aug 16, 2008 11:14

... Sure, but where does the electricity come from? Power plants that run at much higher efficiency (and much cleaner per kilowatt of...could ever hope to do. And electricity is hard to transport and store...world that *doesn't* have an electricity transportation system already in place? ...is because efforts at storing it more efficiently have been systematically shut ...
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Author: ZerkonX
Date: Aug 16, 2008 06:20

... Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:43:32 -0400, Daniel T. wrote: efforts at storing it more efficiently have been systematically shut down. There is nothing more important about this issue. Locking in anything, particularly power generation, ...one time, like the present, is a mistake, at best. Electricity specifically being something wide open to new discovery as it itself...
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Author: Daniel T.
Date: Aug 16, 2008 04:45

... that run at much higher efficiency Not that great actually. (and ...-40%% region. """ ... EVs are significantly more efficient in converting their energy ... ICE & Fuel Refining Processing 39%% (Electricity 92%% (Fuel Refining) Generation) Transmission ...28%% 14%% Table 4. Operating Efficiency Comparison Between EVs and ICE...
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Author: Eeyore
Date: Aug 16, 2008 03:32

... one way to mechanical work only a Pelton wheel can approach an electric motor's 95+%% efficiency. Yup. But the gas/oil/coal-fired power plants needed to generate the electricty do...line losses transmitting it to point- of-use. Overall typical thermal efficiency is in the 30-40%% region. No free lunch. ...
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Author: rlbell.nsuid
Date: Aug 16, 2008 00:54

... wheel can approach an electric motor's 95+%% efficiency. Yup. But the gas/...> of-use. Overall typical thermal efficiency is in the 30-40%% ... will sell you a 60%% thermally efficient combined cycle unit (H1). It definitely ... should be able to achieve gobsmacking efficiencies if we can conquer the ... (which has a theoretically high efficiency, but only at obscene temperatures), ...
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Author: Eeyore
Date: Aug 15, 2008 14:05

...to converting one form of energy one way to mechanical work only a Pelton wheel can approach an electric motor's 95+%% efficiency. Yup. But the gas/oil/coal-fired power plants needed to generate the electricty ... losses transmitting it to point- of-use. Overall typical thermal efficiency is in the 30-40%% region. No free lunch. Graham
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