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Re: Who gets self determination?     

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Author: Ed
Date: Aug 20, 2008 17:21

... a Senator or a President; they exercise control because people chose to endorse them for those roles through election.  In effect, they took their "self determination" and delegated it in exchange for the perceived benefits of an organized government. What of those people who did not vote ...
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Author: turtoni
Date: Aug 18, 2008 19:36

... a Senator or a President; they exercise control because people chose to endorse them for those roles through election.  In effect, they took their "self determination" and delegated it in exchange for the perceived benefits of an organized government. What of those people who did not vote ...
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Author: Publius
Date: Aug 18, 2008 19:01

...a Senator or a President; they exercise control because people chose to endorse them for those roles through election. In effect, they took their "self determination" and delegated it in exchange for the perceived benefits of an organized government. What of those people who did not vote for the ...
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Author: Ed
Date: Aug 18, 2008 18:26

... judging when a territiory or its inhabitants ought to be free to determine their own government and destiny and when its appropriate for small (or large) ...; they exercise control because people chose to endorse them for those roles through election. In effect, they took their "self determination" and delegated it in exchange for the perceived benefits of an organized government.
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Author: turtoni
Date: Aug 15, 2008 21:42

...ought to be free to determine their own government and destiny...to come up with a self consistent set of moral guidelines...there is the argument that Self- determination should trump Territorial Integrity...is that the Right of Self-determination trumps Territorial Integrity. Cormagh...the de facto end of self-determination of national groups." "coo...
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Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 15, 2008 21:41

...or its inhabitants ought to be free to determine their own government and destiny and when ... that any group has the right to self determination but that leads to very complex questions.  Does it the group ... been able to come up with a self consistent set of moral guidelines here; any ideas? It is all about the correct interpretation of "self determination". A country or a state does ...
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Author: Cormagh
Date: Aug 15, 2008 14:18

... ought to be free to determine their own government and destiny and... to come up with a self consistent set of moral guidelines ... there is the argument that Self- determination should trump Territorial Integrity,... is that the Right of Self-determination trumps Territorial Integrity. Cormagh ... the de facto end of self-determination of national groups." "coo-...
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Author: turtoni
Date: Aug 15, 2008 10:39

...inhabitants ought to be free to determine their own government and destiny and... to come up with a self consistent set of moral guidelines ..., there is the argument that Self- determination should trump Territorial Integrity, ... is that the Right of Self-determination trumps Territorial Integrity. Cormagh ... the de facto end of self-determination of national groups." "coo-...
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Author: Ed
Date: Aug 15, 2008 07:31

... ought to be free to determine their own government and destiny...group has the right to self determination but that leads to...to come up with a self consistent set of moral guidelines...seem to try to balance self determination with territorial integrity. Here...of the region in question." "Self-determination is an absolute and...moral "right", as some say self determination is? Did the Soviet...
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Author: ZerkonX
Date: Aug 15, 2008 06:29

...ve not been able to come up with a self consistent set of moral guidelines here; any ideas? Yes. to be consistent you must be dealing with a consistent. "self-determination" is a 'moral' standard however when speaking in terms of a group/state, this 'self' becomes a little shaky. For instance, in order to understand or know what 'self-determination' is to a group, there must be...
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