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What if: we had precise statistics for fertility in the Soviet Union in the 1930's?     

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Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: May 24, 2008 07:47

.... ISBN 5-02-013479-1 So, the critical question in determining how many people Stalin actually killed in the 1930's seems to be the precise statistics for fertility during this period. "The crude birth rate in the USSR throughout its history had been decreasing - from 44.0 per thousand in 1926 ...
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Author: am05
Date: Jun 2, 2008 13:39

...> 'ballpark estimates' and, AFAIK, he idd not pretend (at least in 'Archipelago') to provide precise numbers. No. And it's clearly a polemic. But that was quite useful, and as ... it was, in the Soviet system that contributed mightily to bringing it down. Mindless statistical "glorious Soviet production of tractors up 40%%" producto-prop belied the deep, deep problems ...
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Author: Les Cargill
Date: May 31, 2008 13:46

...> 'ballpark estimates' and, AFAIK, he idd not pretend (at least in 'Archipelago') to provide precise numbers. No. And it's clearly a polemic. But that was quite useful, and as a ... as it was, in the Soviet system that contributed mightily to bringing it down. Mindless statistical "glorious Soviet production of tractors up 40%%" producto-prop belied the deep, deep problems brought ...
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Author: am05
Date: May 30, 2008 06:52

...'ballpark estimates' and, AFAIK, he idd not pretend (at least in 'Archipelago') to provide precise numbers. However, something in the tens of millions seems plausible if you take into an account ...as it was, in the Soviet system that contributed mightily to bringing it down. Mindless statistical "glorious Soviet production of tractors up 40%%" producto-prop belied the deep, deep problems ...
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Author: Les Cargill
Date: May 29, 2008 17:37

... is even more striking. And finally, you say that - but Stalin ultimately created a bubble, such as it was, in the Soviet system that contributed mightily to bringing it down. Mindless statistical "glorious Soviet production of tractors up 40%%" producto-prop belied the deep, deep problems brought about by the sheer scale of Stalin's ambition. But, like Peter the Great, he did advance ...
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Author: Les Cargill
Date: May 28, 2008 00:03

... despite the famines and purges, the fertility rate was quite high in Russia in ...'s rule. On the other hand, fertility drops to zero in famines. Women ...>>>> represent a sudden, sharp drop in fertility in large parts of the country,...to me that he was genocidal. The statistics are far from clear on this. Why are the statistics so unclear? They are clear with Hitler, ...
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Author: am05
Date: May 27, 2008 15:11

... themselves? Didn't I say that "Stalin's Canal" was _officially_ sponsored by GPU? BTW what is your definition of "Stalinist"? Unless you explain who precisely qualifies in your opinion, this question is meaningless. Except, of course, for the fact that OGPU/MGB was as closely associated with Stalinist as was practically possible...
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Author: John Galt
Date: May 27, 2008 14:16

...has been successful in largely wiping out the Sunnis of central Iraq who formed the core of Saddam's support base. [JG] There were about 8M Sunnis in Iraq, including the Kurds. I have never seen any statistics that show that the tribal death toll in Iraq has come anywhere near that number. And, even if it had, you have the rather difficult task of showing that such is Bush's intent, as "...
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Author: The Trucker
Date: May 27, 2008 13:50

... the famines and purges, the fertility rate was quite high in Russia in ...s rule. On the other hand, fertility drops to zero in famines. Women ...>> > represent a sudden, sharp drop in fertility in large parts of the ... to me that he was genocidal. The statistics are far from clear on this. Why are the statistics so unclear? They are clear with Hitler, Mussolini...
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Author: John Galt
Date: May 27, 2008 13:33

...despite the famines and purges, the fertility rate was quite high in Russia in ...s rule. On the other hand, fertility drops to zero in famines. Women ...> > represent a sudden, sharp drop in fertility in large parts of the ... to me that he was genocidal. The statistics are far from clear on this. Why are the statistics so unclear? They are clear with Hitler, Mussolini,...
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