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Author: Hertz Donut
Date: Nov 14, 2007 05:30

...in message news:1195007100-sch@news.lava.net... somewhere@outthere.net (Hertz Donut) wrote: "Dan Birchall" <nobody@imaginary-host.danbirchall.com> wrote: somewhere@outthere.net (Hertz Donut) wrote: Watada was not given either an illegal or an unlawful order. What part of *THAT* do *YOU* not understand? The part where you saying so makes it so. Please ...
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Author: Hertz Donut
Date: Nov 8, 2007 23:05

....lava.net... somewhere@outthere.net (Hertz Donut) wrote: Watada was not given either an illegal or an unlawful order. ... of that. No part of the orders that Watada received were in contavention with the Constitution of the United States.... to declare war, which hasn't been done. :) Again, Watada's orders were simple, and not in contravention to the Constitution....
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Author: Jerry Okamura
Date: Nov 8, 2007 14:30

...> wrote in message news:1194505501-sch@news.lava.net... somewhere@outthere.net (Hertz Donut) wrote: Watada was not given either an illegal or an unlawful order. What part of *THAT* do *...> been provided by the people you're chanting at. No part of the orders that Watada received were in contavention with the Constitution of the United States. What part of *THAT* do...
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Author: Alvin E. Toda
Date: Nov 7, 2007 23:10

... way to protect this oath, and insure that the officer does his duty. You have no right to appoint yourself judge and jury. But appointing himself judge and jury is *EXACTLY* what Watada did. He took it upon himself to decide that his orders were not legal, and he is completely, utterly and totally wrong. It is his duty according to the Oath to make that decision. He...
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Author: Hertz Donut
Date: Nov 7, 2007 21:00

...importance is the Constitution to which Watada bears "true faith and allegiance"-- ...it for more than 20 years. Watada was not given either an illegal...No part of the orders that Watada received were in contavention with the...according to regulations...". The orders that Watada recieved, and disobeyed, were fully, ...is completely, utterly and totally wrong. Watada refused an order to deploy. ...
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Author: Alvin E. Toda
Date: Nov 6, 2007 19:30

... the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962). The other document is similar. Note in the above that of primary importance is the Constitution to which Watada bears "true faith and allegiance"-- not the President. Further he only obeys orders to the President and higher officers in a limited way-- ie only "according to regulations... etc". What part do...
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Author: Hertz Donut
Date: Nov 5, 2007 23:45

... I hardly think that you can read Watada's mind and more than likely, the ...it laughable; the quote by his family about Watada only trying to live up to the oath ... Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.) Watada was/is following no known "spirit" of the oath. Watada is in fact breaking the oaths that he took... to the world how that oath gives Watada the right to refuse a legal and ...
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Author: Alvin E. Toda
Date: Nov 4, 2007 10:15

....net> wrote in message news:1193986506-sch@news.lava.net... I hardly think that you can read Watada's mind and more than likely, the Judge's. We should stick to what he is saying ....thehawaiichannel.com/news/9699735/detail.html I found it laughable; the quote by his family about Watada only trying to live up to the oath he took. How clueless can they be? ...
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Author: Hertz Donut
Date: Nov 3, 2007 23:45

... 1. The war in Iraq is *NOT* and illegal war. 2. Watada did not refuse to go because he thinks the war is illegal. ...immoral. Honu I hardly think that you can read Watada's mind and more than likely, the Judge's. We should stick ....html I found it laughable; the quote by his family about Watada only trying to live up to the oath he took. How clueless ...
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Author: Jerry Okamura
Date: Nov 2, 2007 20:45

...>> When will you understand the following: 1. The war in Iraq is *NOT* and illegal war. 2. Watada did not refuse to go because he thinks the war is illegal. He thinks it is immoral. Honu I hardly think that you can read Watada's mind and more than likely, the Judge's. We should stick to what he is saying rather than what ...
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