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Re: VH-OJK Oxy Cylinders     

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Author: Rob
Date: Aug 29, 2008 21:09

... From the ATSB prelim report - Table 2: Details of the passenger oxygen cylinders fitted to VH-OJK at the time of the occurrence Location Serial No. Manufactured ...>>> Ned Did you also note that the cylinders are filled to a pressure of 1850psi and ...LPG bottle does not have that pressure either. Gas cylinders (CIG) have something like 2500psi are a much ...
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Author: Pits
Date: Aug 29, 2008 19:31

... From the ATSB prelim report - Table 2: Details of the passenger oxygen cylinders fitted to VH-OJK at the time of the occurrence Location Serial No. Manufactured date...Ned Did you also note that the cylinders are filled to a pressure of 1850psi and...LPG bottle does not have that pressure either. Gas cylinders (CIG) have something like 2500psi are a much ...
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Author: Rob
Date: Aug 29, 2008 15:38

... From the ATSB prelim report - Table 2: Details of the passenger oxygen cylinders fitted to VH-OJK at the time of the occurrence Location Serial No. Manufactured ...> Ned Did you also note that the cylinders are filled to a pressure of 1850psi and minimum...LPG bottle does not have that pressure either. Gas cylinders (CIG) have something like 2500psi are a much ...
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Author: Ned
Date: Aug 29, 2008 07:22

From the ATSB prelim report - Table 2: Details of the passenger oxygen cylinders fitted to VH-OJK at the time of the occurrence Location Serial No. Manufactured date Fitted to aircraft date Right side #1 240341 Feb 92 16 Jun 07 Right side #2 ST30395 Oct 01 14 Jun 08 Right side #3 ST20539 Apr 01 19 Jan 07 Right side #4 535657 Feb 96 4 Jun 08 ...
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Author: Sylvia Else
Date: Sep 1, 2008 00:14

John Ewing wrote: Ned - I agree with you but I am wondering whether the investigators have established whether the initial failure was the cylinder or a component downstream. I have seen copper tubing on the aftercoolers of large air compressors fracture from excessive vibration. Brass pipe fittings can also fail if they have porosity or are overtightened. It would be ...
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Author: David Lesher
Date: Aug 29, 2008 22:04

...@aioe.org> writes: I find it somewhat curious that with this level of detail, that neither of the words "inspected" or "tested", appear anywhere in the report. I'd assume the reasons the dates vary is because the tanks are swapped out at regular intervals, tested, and then stored until needed. The cylinders were installed since the last D check, so I assume it's every few years.
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Author: Pits
Date: Aug 29, 2008 19:32

... message news:48b87a64$1_9@news.peopletelecom.com.au... Did you also note that the cylinders are filled to a pressure of 1850psi and minimum 2.87 mm (0.113 inch) wall thickness. And you guessed that your LPG bottle does not have that pressure either. Gas cylinders (CIG) have something like 2500psi are a much thicker wall and tested on a regular basis. ...
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Author: David Lesher
Date: Sep 5, 2008 08:06

GB <gb0808@threefiddy.com> writes: I then ask, do tanks - scuba, industrial, aviation or other-wise fail with *any* significant regularity at all? Everyone seems to have a story, but it always seems to happen to a friend-of-a-friend. First, I'm distinuishing between tank {body} failures and valve failures. In the industrial world, 95+%% of the valve failures occur when someone ...
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Author: Ned
Date: Sep 5, 2008 00:52

JB wrote: Ned wrote: I find it somewhat curious that with this level of detail, that neither of the words "inspected" or "tested", appear anywhere in the report. Surely an organization with QANTAS much vaunted "safety culture" would have a record of when and where these bottles, some of them near 18 years old - and some older - were tested in accordance with CAR - ...
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Author: JB
Date: Sep 5, 2008 00:35

David Lesher wrote: Bottle failures are not common, and most are because of abuse. Oh, I'm sure they fail, but as far as I know, not in the aviation context. -- Posted at www.Usenet.com.au
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