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Re: Toward a Forth that's easier to learn     

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Author: J Thomas
Date: Oct 10, 2006 15:08

...> writes Re: Toward a Forth that's easier to learn [..] How many... to do. If all modern Forths for PCs etc provide them,... if they don't change. Easier if you can just use ... I think eventually most desktop Forths will support this (silently), if ... can't think why any Forth wouldn't accept this. How ... calculate 10 items that are easier to calculate now than before ...
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Author: Marcel Hendrix
Date: Oct 10, 2006 10:52

"J Thomas" <jethomas5@gmail.com> writes Re: Toward a Forth that's easier to learn [..] How many existing Forth compilers would run code that has the first three environmental dependencies? Separate user ...ou 3 , ou ( 3 ok ) I think eventually most desktop Forths will support this (silently), if they don't already. Gforth 0.6...
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Author: Peter Finney
Date: Oct 11, 2006 04:13

... that all the application programmers learn to work around stuff because ... 15 years (having implemented several Forths myself). I think the quote ... When I first started using Forth (around 1982) there was no ... of distinction was what made Forth so attractive and useful at ...Making a forth that is easier to learn is a great ... the resulting complexity makes the learning curve too steep for a ...
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Author: Bernd Paysan
Date: Oct 11, 2006 09:28

... someone who knows nothing about either Windows programming or forth - but wants to learn how to produce useful Windows applications. Is he/she likely to make much progress using forth with any of the existing tools? ...some point you certainly have to insert Forth code, so you without knowing anything ... Forth (and not willing to learn), not much progress can be made ;-). --...
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Author: Jerry Avins
Date: Oct 24, 2006 08:49

... Paysan wrote: I don't think this is fair. Google's main search engine is quite unlikely based on Python, and seems to be highly optimized. I suppose if it was written in Forth, the algorithm would probably change faster, and Googlespam would be less a problem. Please explain and justify the claim of the second clause of that last sentence. Googlespam is abuse of...
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Author: Bernd Paysan
Date: Oct 24, 2006 08:21

...seems to be highly optimized. I suppose if it was written in Forth, the algorithm would probably change faster, and Googlespam would be less... more "prominent" links ;-). So how does an interactive system like Forth improve this sort of development? Let's say I'm a ... and develop counter-measures against it. Often, as user, it's easier to work around the problem by adding a -ebay to the ...
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Author: John Passaniti
Date: Oct 23, 2006 13:44

Bernd Paysan wrote: I don't think this is fair. Google's main search engine is quite unlikely based on Python, and seems to be highly optimized. I suppose if it was written in Forth, the algorithm would probably change faster, and Googlespam would be less a problem. Please explain and justify the claim of the second clause of that last sentence.
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Author: John Doty
Date: Oct 22, 2006 16:37

...*me* in what I wrote? Just to me 100%% clear: whether Google does or does not use Python or Forth or anything else makes no difference to any applications I write. My idea was that Python helps to make a better world, in which you live, too, but Forth helps only some astronomers to move their telescopes :-) It used to, but as far as I can tell ...
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Author: Frank Buss
Date: Oct 22, 2006 16:34

...* in what I wrote? Just to me 100%% clear: whether Google does or does not use Python or Forth or anything else makes no difference to any applications I write. My idea was that Python helps to make a better world, in which you live, too, but Forth helps only some astronomers to move their telescopes :-) -- Frank Buss, fb@frank-buss.de http://www.frank-...
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Author: Stephen J. Bevan
Date: Oct 22, 2006 16:14

... make any difference to *me* if all those people had chosen Forth instead. Many websites and companies uses Python, direct or indirect, e...html If they had to write all the libraries for Forth, maybe Google would be not so successful like it is and...100%% clear: whether Google does or does not use Python or Forth or anything else makes no difference to any applications I write. ...
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