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Tibet under the Guomindang     

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Author: bm2617
Date: Dec 1, 2007 07:16

... that there has been a fair amount of government pressure to make it so - would the Guomindang make as much of an effort to sinicize the place, especially ... of the next Incarnation... What will the foreign view of Tibet be? It should be easier to get to under the Guomindang than under the Chinese - does...?). Does "Seven (eight? nine?)Years In Tibet" ever get written? Or does Heinrich Harrer...
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Author: eatfastnoodle
Date: Dec 2, 2007 06:25

...of devout buddhists, he is respected, I'm not sure about that though) Even within Tibet, Dalai Lama used to be just a leader of ...in term of influence in China long before it was even introduced into Tibet. And religion has never been that important to most Chinese, ...is wildly off the mark too, Dalai Lama is the spiritual leader in Tibet, but he is nobody in China, people just don't take him ...
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Author: Matt Giwer
Date: Dec 2, 2007 00:50

... wrote: So, what happens to Tibet? For one thing, the local political system is going to be dismantled: although the Guomindang does ... by a Chinese (and probably richly corrupt, knowing the Guomindang of the time) framework, and the Dalai Lama is reduced... because he was calling for the return of the slave/serf system under the control of the Lamas which China had abolished. Someone...
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Author: eatfastnoodle
Date: Dec 1, 2007 19:55

...am, bm2...@eve.albany.edu wrote: So, what happens to Tibet? For one thing, the local political system is going to be dismantled: although the Guomindang does not possess the onus...'s been my impression that there has been a fair amount of government pressure to make it so - would the Guomindang make as much of an effort to sinicize the place, especially if there is less hostility...
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Author: David Tenner
Date: Dec 1, 2007 10:23

... at takeover, they ultimately are defeated by Guomindang forces. One interesting question about Tibet in a GMD China: What role ... life and education, see Thomas Laird, *The Story of Tibet: Conversations with the Dalai Lama*, pp. 288-... me, 'If you really want to get independence, I will support you. I will support the independence of Tibet.' "In Gyalo Thondup's view, the monks did not...
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Author: bm2617
Date: Dec 2, 2007 19:51

On Dec 2, 10:23 am, Old Toby <tobiasburmeis...@earthlink.net> wrote: Here's a bit more detail on the subject... http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1984/CJB.htm Bruce
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Author: Old Toby
Date: Dec 2, 2007 18:23

bm2617@eve.albany.edu wrote: I dunno about the Sikkim area dispute, but it was my understanding that the quarrels over the area east of Kashmir was a dispute about lines on the map - the Indians were claiming a border based on British maps, although there were no "facts on the ground" (it was an essentially uninhabited region, IIRC, with no Indian government presence) and ...
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Author: eatfastnoodle
Date: Dec 2, 2007 06:32

On Dec 1, 9:51 pm, bm2...@eve.albany.edu wrote: On Dec 1, 11:55 am, eatfastnoodle <d12s34...@gmail.com> wrote: China is always an secular society, even if China were as religious as Thailand with Buddhism as the dominant religion, Buddhism is not a unified religious, the sect Dalai Lama leads is only a sub-sect of one of eight major sects existed in China, and Dalai ...
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Author: bm2617
Date: Dec 2, 2007 04:51

On Dec 1, 11:55 am, eatfastnoodle <d12s34...@gmail.com> wrote: China is always an secular society, even if China were as religious as Thailand with Buddhism as the dominant religion, Buddhism is not a unified religious, the sect Dalai Lama leads is only a sub-sect of one of eight major sects existed in China, and Dalai Lama can hardly be considered a figure with serious ...
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Author: bm2617
Date: Dec 2, 2007 04:45

On Dec 1, 2:56 pm, Old Toby <tobiasburmeis...@earthlink.net> wrote: Very doubtful. OTL, this happened as China was burning its bridges with Russia, and wanted to establish that it was a big dog that could stand on its own. ATL, China will want to keep the Russians from getting too aggressive, while still keeping the favor of Washington. So attacking India, which is not only an ...
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