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Re: Are thoughts things?     

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Author: ta
Date: Oct 26, 2006 20:21

... G. Rubino wrote: ta asks: Are thoughts things? That is, are they substantial? ... to accept the idea of non-thingness that is spirit, soul, or mind. Thoughts are as substantial as thinkers' ... confused with the reality they reflect. Thoughts *are* the only reality, aren't ... inside world may contain an "imaginative" thought that has no immediate correspondence with ...
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Author: Anthony G. Rubino
Date: Oct 26, 2006 05:58

ta asks: Are thoughts things? That is, are they substantial? Not in a physical sense of thingness like rocks, but it's difficult for some to accept the idea of non-thingness that is spirit, soul, or mind. Thoughts are as substantial as thinkers' consciousness. ... our inside world may contain an "imaginative" thought that has no immediate correspondence with anything...
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Author: RaaN
Date: Oct 30, 2006 13:31

...wrote: RaaN wrote: Perhap impermananece is too weak a term. Non persistence might be better. Nothing can be said to persist for any duration at all since all things change. Thus conceived then even duration is an illusion since there cannot properly be said to be any continuity within which anything can even be considered temporary. Even the illusion of ...
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Author: Paul Holbach
Date: Oct 30, 2006 09:38

... holds that all the abstract thoughts are already there, waiting to ... by somebody. "Thinking is thought-grasping." (Frege) Thoughts, as propositions, are ... between qualia, feelings, perceptions. primitive thoughts, conceptions and propositions. I'm...abstract objects such as Fregean thoughts aren't abstractions in the...if there are any such things, qualia (http://plato.stanford.edu...
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Author: Immortalist
Date: Oct 30, 2006 09:14

...had a marked bias in favor of things or substances. However, another variant line of thought was also ...all, the concentration on [perduring] physical things as existents in nature slights the ...offers. Secondly, Aristotle says that general things, like species and genera, depend on ... being basic and particular; for material things have other characteristics. For one thing,...
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Author: -Phil Clemence
Date: Oct 29, 2006 19:34

... suspect that anything substantial about his thoughts would be different? They are in... use as remnants of Paine's thoughts. The electrical fields and chemical ...time would we say that thoughts are things? It seems like it... ...like vibrating fields interacting than substantial things making contact (i.e.. a ball...the illusion of solidity because other things vibrate so much weaker? Wrong? ...
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Author: Ed
Date: Oct 29, 2006 13:55

...>how could I demonstrate that thoughts are substantial; I could do ... that anything substantial about his thoughts would be different? They are ... how to demonstrate substance for things in the past with no ... as remnants of Paine's thoughts. The electrical fields and chemical... be of someone else's thoughts. In any event the relationship...a text to an original thought is complex at best. Ed...
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Author: Anthony G. Rubino
Date: Oct 28, 2006 20:55

> RaaN wrote: Perhap impermananece is too weak a term. Non persistence might be better. Nothing can be said to persist for any duration at all since all things change. Thus conceived then even duration is an illusion since there cannot properly be said to be any continuity within which anything can even be considered temporary. Even the illusion of permanence or ...
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Author: Anthony G. Rubino
Date: Oct 28, 2006 20:12

...wrote: I agree. I was caught up in the idea of how could I demonstrate that thoughts are substantial; I could do that for someone thinking now, but I don't see how I ... i.e., his body, is in the past. Why would you suspect that anything substantial about his thoughts would be different? They are in the past too. Tony, philosopher http://www.geocities.com/trisector/ So ...
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Author: Brian Fletcher
Date: Oct 28, 2006 18:34

.... Everything you see was originally a 'thought'...sometimes a dream. Whose thoughts created the Tsunami that killed all those people? All people die....You said everything was originally a thought -- a tsunami qualifies as a subset...". So my question was, who thought the tsnumai into existence, and why? Is that a thought that is looking for an answer, ...
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