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Re: The Witnesses     

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Author: Bud
Date: Mar 9, 2008 04:43

... through those accounts, there are maybe one or two that say the shots were right on top of each other (bang, bang). �... Luis Alvarez confirmed that there was a very loud noise at frame 285, 1.5 seconds before the... anyone to see the difference between the reactions you guess to be reflexes to an unknown shot and the reactions that we know are reflexes to a known shot...
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Re: DEBATING THE JFK CASE (PART #32)     

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Author: Ben Holmes
Date: Mar 8, 2008 07:08

... I first learned about that 285 shot, reading Nellie's testimony although my articles back then referenced a shot at frame 284. ...=R2X352QQGK52CU&displayType=ReviewDetail ------------------------------------------- CTer -- {Quoting Bill Newman}: "I thought the shot had come from the garden directly behind me, that it was on an elevation from where I...
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Re: DEBATING THE JFK CASE (PART #32)     

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Author: Bob Harris
Date: Mar 8, 2008 05:28

.... I first learned about that 285 shot, reading Nellie's testimony although my articles back then referenced a shot at frame 284. ...=R2X352QQGK52CU&displayType=ReviewDetail ------------------------------------------- CTer -- {Quoting Bill Newman}: "I thought the shot had come from the garden directly behind me, that it was on an elevation from where I ...
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Re: DEBATING THE JFK CASE (PART #32)     

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Author: aeffects
Date: Mar 7, 2008 19:22

.... I first learned about that 285 shot, reading Nellie's testimony although my articles back then referenced a shot at frame 284. these frame ...=R2X352QQGK52CU&displayType=ReviewDetail ------------------------------------------- CTer -- {Quoting Bill Newman}: "I thought the shot had come from the garden directly behind me, that it was on an elevation from where I ...
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Re: DEBATING THE JFK CASE (PART #32)     

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Author: Ben Holmes
Date: Mar 7, 2008 15:48

... my articles back then referenced a shot at frame 284. At that early stage, I had no clue that Alvarez placed the noise at 285, or even that the huge consensus of witnesses recalled closely bunched shots at... Charles Brehm, Kellerman, Greer, etc. etc, all of whom confirmed that shot in a multitude of ways. Even if you don't buy it now, you need to look at it for...
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Re: DEBATING THE JFK CASE (PART #32)     

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Author: Robert Harris
Date: Mar 7, 2008 07:21

... although my articles back then referenced a shot at frame 284. At that early stage, I had no clue that Alvarez placed the noise at 285, or even that ...=R2X352QQGK52CU&displayType=ReviewDetail ------------------------------------------- CTer -- {Quoting Bill Newman}: "I thought the shot had come from the garden directly behind me, that it was on an elevation from where I ...
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Re: Bob Harris re the Zapruder film... 03-02-2008 (Bob caught in another stupid lie!)     

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Author: Ben Holmes
Date: Mar 2, 2008 23:24

... major alteration re the in-camera original Zapruder film (shot by Abraham Zapruder 11/22/63), ... boat right now as the LNT'ers who deny a shot at Z-285 - the evidence is clear, and you're forced to lie and... film also caused officer Chaney to disappear from the Zfilm at frame 255, your hypothesis would explain that as well. To totally eliminate ...
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Re: Here is the problem, Ben     

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Author: Ben Holmes
Date: Mar 2, 2008 20:43

...Bob is in right now - when Bob was on the other side demonstrating a shot at Z-285. David Healy On Mar 2,... Chaney: "at the time, after the shooting, from the time the shot first rang out, the car stopped completely,...", as in, *how many*? You could not get away with more than one contiguous frame deletion, even when the limo was moving slowest. And even that, would throw...
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Re: The Witnesses     

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Author: Anthony Marsh
Date: Mar 2, 2008 03:36

...through those accounts, there are maybe one or two that say the shots were right on top of each other (bang, bang)....Luis Alvarez confirmed that there was a very loud noise at frame 285, 1.5 seconds before ... to remove the portion in which I compare the reactions to the head shot with the reactions that you are claiming to be reflexes. I did no such thing...
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Re: The Witnesses     

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Author: Bud
Date: Mar 2, 2008 01:28

... through those accounts, there are maybe one or two that say the shots were right on top of each other (bang, bang). �... Luis Alvarez confirmed that there was a very loud noise at frame 285, 1.5 seconds before the... anyone to see the difference between the reactions you guess to be reflexes to an unknown shot and the reactions that we know are reflexes to a known shot...
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