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Re: The OO approach     

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Author: Jonah Thomas
Date: Mar 28, 2008 04:11

... the conventional wisdom. It looks like OO aids programming by organizing code. ...something complicated there's usually *some* OO approach that would be quite ...you make assertions without supporting evidence. OO has "mostly failed" why? In ... to the clearest explanations about OO's promises? What was it ...> confusing terminology, and pronounce that "OO has failed." What you appear ...
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Author: Gerry
Date: Mar 28, 2008 03:40

...the conventional wisdom. It looks like OO aids programming by organizing code. ...you got the exact opposite message. OO is a mature technology that's...you make assertions without supporting evidence.  OO has "mostly failed" why?  In what...> confusing terminology, and pronounce that "OO has failed." What you appear to... John Passaniti says using the OO approach is simply a different ...
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Author: John Passaniti
Date: Jul 25, 2008 14:29

... system greatly benefits from an OO approach. These are real-world...that detect simple contact closures. OO helps here because we can...technologies. And that's where OO comes in. We first defined...is all about, OO is nothing more than a method to...Usually when people talk about OO, they talk about encapsulation, modularity...only thing that benefits from OO-style factoring is desktop GUIs...
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Author: Andrew Haley
Date: Mar 30, 2008 03:06

... One of the early promises of OO was that great designers could set up OO systems that mediocre coders could then use, and the ...> sometimes get mediocre designers making OO systems that get in the ...is not exactly a flaw in OO, it's a misuse of OO. But the marketing promise that OO would be hard to misuse has...We're supposed to believe that OO hasn't delivered on a ...
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Author: Jonah Thomas
Date: Mar 29, 2008 19:33

... One of the early promises of OO was that great designers could set up OO systems that mediocre coders could then use, and the...> sometimes get mediocre designers making OO systems that get in the ...is not exactly a flaw in OO, it's a misuse of OO. But the marketing promise that OO would be hard to misuse has...We're supposed to believe that OO hasn't delivered on a promise...
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Author: William James
Date: Mar 29, 2008 14:30

... One of the early promises of OO was that great designers could set up OO systems that mediocre coders could then use, and the ... we sometimes get mediocre designers making OO systems that get in the way ...is not exactly a flaw in OO, it's a misuse of OO. But the marketing promise that OO would be hard to misuse ...We're supposed to believe that OO hasn't delivered on a promise...
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Author: Jonah Thomas
Date: Mar 29, 2008 10:34

Bruce McFarling <agila61@netscape.net> wrote: Jonah Thomas <jethom...@gmail.com> wrote: So you do your IF every time the code executes. But if there is an OO system in place, then it optimizes that selection. And that can be designed so it works equally well in the interpreter as the compiler, so there's no need to go into a state- smart word that only works in a compiler....
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Author: Elizabeth D Rather
Date: Mar 29, 2008 10:30

... Thomas wrote: I've consistently avoided OO. I've tried to avoid problems that are complicated enough for OO to be valuable. But various recent ...the idea that these days, avoiding OO is like avoiding structured programming. ...to get anybody to believe you. ... OO is a tool. Like many other.... Chuck Moore independently developed an OO system for image processing in the...
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Author: Bruce McFarling
Date: Mar 29, 2008 09:41

On Mar 29, 12:08 pm, Jonah Thomas <jethom...@gmail.com> wrote: So you do your IF every time the code executes. But if there is an OO system in place, then it optimizes that selection. And that can be designed so it works equally well in the interpreter as the compiler, so there's no need to go into a state- smart word that only works in a compiler. Where that and starts to ...
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Author: Jonah Thomas
Date: Mar 29, 2008 09:08

...: Jonah Thomas wrote: I've consistently avoided OO. I've tried to avoid problems that are complicated enough for OO to be valuable. That's similar to trying to ... try. The original source code would be your OO code, and the intermediate source code would be ... \ **Now let's use objects :class OOobject \ OO object factory 4 bytes data :m ...
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