Is there a description of a normal pile driver any where on the net as opposed to a clew first pile driver? Also I have heard of a clew first Heli Tack but I don't think I have seen one can any body provide a link or provide a description for this? I am agreeing with ssnodgrass on the Push Tack terminology but I think a lot of people are getting hung up on the naming conventions. So the Doss

On Sep 1, 8:48 am, Michael <MichaelAl...@gmail.com> wrote: This thread is getting messy.   A non planing push tack and a non planing haas tack are two different moves. Nonplaning push tack:  feet change to switchstance, rig is brought across the body and backwinded clewfirst, then a backwinded clew-first tack is performed. Nonplaning haas tack:  feet change to switchstance with

spennie@windjunkie.net wrote: I nearly pulled off a "heel-side jibe" a couple times; Switched my feet early, then turned with my back to the sail, heels on the inside rail. Felt pretty bitchen, but was unable to flip the sail, gotta work on it some more. A totally original maneuver, as far as I know. I have trouble with freestyle because I'm 6'4" and 205lbs. & I tend to sink