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On 1 Jul, 03:25, 303 <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 1, 2:49 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote: > > > 303 wrote: > > > > Funny, my slanted arguments to suit my agenda where also the EXACT > > > same arguments offered by Agha Khan Kirmani, Ahmad Ruhi, EG Browne, > > > ALM Nicolas, Vance Salisbury, Denis MacEoin, Muhammad Qazvini, Muhit > > > Tabatabai, Abdu'l-Husayn Avarih     

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Author: PaulHammond
Date: Jul 1, 2008 15:36

"In my opinion it is proved beyond all doubt that the Báb ere his death chose him as his successor, duly appointing him as such by the form of words which I published at pp. 996-997 of my second paper on the Bábís in the J. R. A. S. for 1889, and that during the period which elapsed from the Báb's death till the advancement of Behá'u'lláh's claim to be "Him whom God shall manifest" (i.e. from
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About 20 years ago, I came up with a list of eight forms of the eternal Covenant. I don't have the sources readily available, so I will post the list without substantiation. It reads pretty straightforward to me. 1. The Greater Covenant between God and His Prophets 2. The Specific Greater Covenant regarding the Bab 3. The Specific Greater Covenant regarding Baha'u'llah 4. The Greater Covenant     

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Author: PaulHammond
Date: Jun 26, 2008 07:39

What comes to mind is that the judge forgoes of Remeyites argument that they indeed were in that court because of Remey's claim and that they claim the right to his successorship. whether they were in the previous court or not should appear a secondary matter. The other interesting issue appears to be that now they play Fred's 9 denomination game, though they actively and with all their might
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On May 26, 7:13 pm, لا اله الا الله حقاً حقاً <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote: > On May 26, 11:58 pm, Hasl...@aol.com wrote: > > > > Yeah you have a point lets hope this goes all the way to the supreme court > > > so the rest of America will remember they have a Bill Of Rights > > > You are forgetting that the only legal point at issue is whether the > > Remeyites are the legitimate successors     

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Author: Foucaultian
Date: Jun 17, 2008 01:27

Hi Richard. Of course successorship is important for more than just itself. Successorship includes the "much more" of legitimizing those successors, and all they do, and all they will do. But I am talking about the "much more" of what the Covenant itself asks of us and promises us. Here is a paragraph I wrote to Mark: "It just seems to me that a document named by Baha'u'llah the "Covenant"
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In a description of some of the activities of Abdu'l-Baha as Center of th e Covenant, Shoghi Effendi indicates how that Covenant is more than what on e would expect by looking at the successorships of Ali and of Peter, as examples. Dominus vobiscum. Richard "And now to crown the inestimable honors, privileges and benefits showere d upon Him, in ever increasing abundance, throughout the     

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Author: Shahriar
Date: May 31, 2008 22:49

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Johnson" <kent@compx2.com> I don't dispute that practically all Baha'is believe the Covenant of Baha'u'llah is a successorship, but I think it is much more. Thanks for reading. Kent, one cannot rationally take issue with your above statement. The "much more" liies in the choice of Abdu'l-Baha as the Center of that Covenant and the authority
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Hi Mark. When Baha'u'llah says "We have bequeathed to Our heirs an excellent and priceless heritage." and "We exhort you, O peoples of the world, to observe that which will elevate your station. Hold fast to the fear of God and firmly adhere to what is right."... I am tempted to quote here the entire Book of the Covenant here, it is not long, and it is full of exhortations, teachings and     

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Author: Jeffrey
Date: May 27, 2008 06:58

On May 24, 9:04 pm, "Kent Johnson" <k...@compx2.com> wrote: I don't dispute that practically all Baha'is believe the Covenant of Baha'u'llah is a successorship, but I think it is much more. To my understanding, the Ancient, or Eternal, Covenant of God is to accept whatever God commands or wills. That Ancient Covenant (also just called "the Covenant") has at least two aspects: 1. The
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Author: Kent Johnson
Date: May 27, 2008 05:17

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Author: Richard H. Gravelly
Date: May 26, 2008 18:29

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Author: Richard H. Gravelly
Date: May 26, 2008 15:08

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Author: Kent Johnson
Date: May 25, 2008 15:26

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Author: Foucaultian
Date: May 24, 2008 20:48

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