... huab tais is 'emperor'. vaj is 'king'. shi huagdi in hmong is "fajtim". qin shi huang di is a title, meaning first emperor. faj tim is the given name of huang di = yellow emperor. that's why suav + hmoob hais, faj tim huab tais. that's why many say that huang di, yan di, chi you are not 'names' but just titles. you guys get it. i thought we went through this already?
... a 'simple' exercise or demonstration? you say the pattern of 'borrowing' words is hmong -> chinese -> hmong. so, for the word, 'big', what was the pattern? what was the original hmong word for 'big'? big -> da -> tuam. is it loj -> da -> tuam? ... there is a consistent 1-to-1 mapping of consonants between hmoob and suav. xin = siab xiang = xav xing = xeem xie = sau btw, could ...
... children often often say hnow for snow. If Shih Huang becomes SUAV, I wouldn't be surprised if Hmong was Sameon or Samean, ... miv dej ua niag dej Pajnplaimcua wrote: Since we are throwing words and ideas around. Consider this Ch'in Shih-huang Huangdi ...Huang. Then after awhile Shih Huang shortens to Shuang then Suav. ? Just throwing ideas around. Hopefully it won't get too silly....
... to call him by first name Shih Huang. Then after awhile Shih Huang shortens to Shuang then Suav. ? Just throwing ideas around. Hopefully it won't get too silly. Some half year ago, I watched ... people are one as "Chin" As lao said it, "Patheb chin." America said, "China" How the "Suav" Came about...perhaps you may have some thing going on in there. Verify it with the elders, ...
Since we are throwing words and ideas around. Consider this Ch'in Shih-huang Huangdi Imagine, Chinese people call their emperor Chin Shih Huang. Chin is last name? So you start to call him by first name Shih Huang. Then after awhile Shih Huang shortens to Shuang then Suav. ? Just throwing ideas around. Hopefully it won't get too silly.
... the discussion evolved around the word "suav"... On Dec 6, 4:... the same thing with hmong words. for example, huab tais = emperor,... there are many multi-syllable words, whos component syllables may have ... dream. to say that npau suav could be derived from hmong ...neb hais; yog li ces suav = counted or taxed, right? yus...the etymology of hmoob and suav. On Dec 6, 1:53...
... the same thing with hmong words. for example, huab tais = emperor, ... represents more than 1 word; suav = count, suav = 'chinese' (and quite .... there are many multi-syllable words, whos component syllables may have ... dream. to say that npau suav could be derived from hmong ... neb hais; yog li ces suav = counted or taxed, right? yus ... the etymology of hmoob and suav. On Dec 6, 1:53 ...
in the beganing suav is hmong cov qhev. hmong use to count how many of slaves they have. so, after they took over the hmong people, they force the hmong to call suav only and left out the qhev. but the original words for them is suav qhev.
...li neb hais; yog li ces suav = counted or taxed, right? yus txawm...ua tau neej zoo ces luag suav yus nrog luag thiab ho tuaj...tsis tag li xwb lo "npau suav" los yog "dream" no ne? puas yog vim tias peb ntshaw suav lub neej heev es thiaj siv tau lo lus "ua npau suav toog...?" tso li no es ... back to the point. did suav come from shu in shu ... the etymology of hmoob and suav. On Dec 6, 1:53 ...
