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Re: Natural selection vs mutation - in the news     

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Author: Arlin
Date: Jan 23, 2008 22:21

.... They suggest that the biases might be due to selection, or to what they call "selection-independent" constraints (in this regard, they cite authors such as Arthur or Yampolsky and Stoltzfus who do not really agree on the relevance of their conception of "constraint"). They do not claim to be able to distinguish these two competing explanations. The interesting question to ask, in this ...
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Re: Nei's "new mutation theory" resurrects William Bateson     

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Author: John W Edser
Date: Jan 21, 2008 20:52

.... Edser "insists" that the argument Stoltzfus provided was and remains, an ... is requesting that the oversimplification that Stoltzfus allowed be corrected before that model... ignore). OTOH the view that Stoltzfus provides cannot be falsified simply ... until they are so incorporated. Stoltzfus refused to listen even though ... random base rate of mutation? Stoltzfus should note that within the ...
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Re: Nei's "new mutation theory" resurrects William Bateson     

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Author: Arlin
Date: Jan 19, 2008 14:51

... it. The relevant mutational effects include a transition:transversion bias, and differential multiplicity of mutational paths to alternative states (if that's not clear, its explained in Stoltzfus, A. 2006. Mutationism and the Dual Causation of Evolutionary Change. Evol Dev 8:304-317). Note that Orr's model is a neo-mutationist ("new mutations") model, and ...
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Re: Nei's "new mutation theory" resurrects William Bateson     

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Author: Entertained by my own EIMC
Date: Jan 17, 2008 22:47

...of themselves) and other aspects of What Is (and was and will be) going on. "Arlin" <arlin.stoltzfus@gmail.com> wrote in message news:fmo73r$2g4$1@darwin.ediacara.org... On Jan 15, 2... multiplicity of mutational paths to alternative states (if that's not clear, its explained in Stoltzfus, A. 2006. Mutationism and the Dual Causation of Evolutionary Change. Evol Dev 8:304-317). ...
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Re: Nei's "new mutation theory" resurrects William Bateson     

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Author: John W Edser
Date: Jan 17, 2008 22:47

Arlin <arlin.stoltzfus@gmail.com> wrote:- This [Baer, et al] explains how, in the "new mutations" view that (because it works so ... bias, and differential multiplicity of mutational paths to alternative states (if that's not clear, its explained in Stoltzfus, A. 2006. Mutationism and the Dual Causation of Evolutionary Change. Evol Dev 8:304-317). Note that Orr's ...
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Re: Nei's "new mutation theory" resurrects William Bateson     

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Author: Arlin
Date: Jan 17, 2008 10:34

...on the outcome of adaptation. The relevant mutational effects include a transition:transversion bias, and differential multiplicity of mutational paths to alternative states (if that's not clear, its explained in Stoltzfus, A. 2006. Mutationism and the Dual Causation of Evolutionary Change. Evol Dev 8:304-317). Note that Orr's model is a neo-mutationist ("new mutations") model, and that ...
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Re: Nei's "new mutation theory" resurrects William Bateson     

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Author: Arlin
Date: Jan 7, 2008 10:24

... and ii) mutation as a pressure, still is not clear, then I suggest that you look at a textbook such as Freeman and Herron, 1998 (section 5.3), or read Yampolsky and Stoltzfus, 2001 (Evol Dev 3:73-83). In other words, the MS does not totally misunderstand mutation, only the positive aspect of mutation. MS population geneticists have written a gazillion papers on deleterious mutation ...
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Re: Nei's "new mutation theory" resurrects William Bateson     

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Author: Arlin
Date: Jan 3, 2008 09:11

... reason that the historical section of Stoltzfus (2006) focuses on these four issues.... The initial historical section of Stoltzfus (2006) is followed by two ... section briefly. For details, read Stoltzfus (2006), or Gould's 2002 ...in inappropriate, for reasons explained in Stoltzfus, 2006). Darwin explicitly denied that ... evolution (see work cited in Stoltzfus, 2006). through. So you could ...
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Re: Nei's "new mutation theory" resurrects William Bateson     

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Author: Bill Morse
Date: Dec 20, 2007 11:03

arlin.stoltzfus@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 3, 12:29 pm, j...@removethispart.gs.washington.edu (Joe Felsenstein) wrote: In article <fgd4qr$fe...@darwin.ediacara.org>, forsdyke <forsd...@post.queensu.ca> wrote: The idea that "natural selection is of secondary importance" in evolution has recently been recalled by Masatoshi Nei in "The New .... I think two other ...
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Re: Nei's "new mutation theory" resurrects William Bateson     

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Author: Arlin
Date: Dec 19, 2007 10:49

... be dealt with properly, 2) Dawkins knows and can do much better (but apparently can't resist cheap shots). Cheap shots, indeed. I directed you to the documentary evidence in Stoltzfus (2006) which you did not read. I will provide some quotations from the MS architects below. Unfortunately, your statement above reflects an unwillingness to accept evidence-- Dawkins says "X" but you ...
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