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Re: Some Basics on AGW     

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Author: Les Cargill
Date: Jan 3, 2008 13:20

...the argument against the limit being demand? Beyond that, the opening up of the Ukraine and the USAian Great Plains after the Second Revolution dramatically reduced the price of basic calorie foodstuffs. The ability to treat agriculture as a limitless resource and evolve production with modern means has been the bane of the farmer for over a hundred years....
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Author: Dan Bloomquist
Date: Jan 3, 2008 09:29

...what the limit is and the future growth rate. Beyond that, the opening up of the Ukraine and the USAian Great Plains after the Second Revolution dramatically reduced the price of basic calorie foodstuffs. The ability to treat agriculture as a limitless resource and evolve production with modern means has been the bane of the farmer for over a hundred years. The ...
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Author: Dan Bloomquist
Date: Jan 2, 2008 17:03

... came from nitrogen fertilizer and machinery. Beyond that, the opening up of the Ukraine and the USAian Great Plains after the Second Revolution dramatically reduced the price of basic calorie foodstuffs. The ability to treat agriculture as a limitless resource and evolve production with modern means has been the bane of the farmer for over a hundred years. The populist farmer ...
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Author: Les Cargill
Date: Jan 2, 2008 15:31

...the Second Agricultural Revolution worked. And it worked because of tech effects. Beyond that, the opening up of the Ukraine and the USAian Great Plains after the Second Revolution dramatically reduced the price of basic calorie foodstuffs. I haven't done the math on it, but it may just be Moore's Law with a much longer timebase.... You are truly an idiot, and then some....... ...
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Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Dec 31, 2007 07:05

...ethanol shale oil requires almost as much energy for extraction as it produces causing a much greater CO2 burden than conventional oil extraction. Of course, if you can delude yourself into denying peak oil, then denying AGW should be no problem whatsoever. . . . Every time a new find is mentioned - however large - their standard response is "it's a drop in the bucket" It's not...
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Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Dec 30, 2007 19:43

...see how much money I can bring in my investment banking firm by creating an oil scare Simmons. � Just a drop in the bucket. �So minute, that it doesn't change anything. It's _mucho_ oil. Randroids cannot comprehend basic logic so it shouldn't be too surprising they are as worthless as SUV exhaust in a dustdevil when it comes to understanding numbers. Bret Cahill
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Author: Dan Bloomquist
Date: Dec 28, 2007 17:20

..., he seems to parade around sci.econ like the group god. That he puts hydrogen at the front of his list says it all. He really is very ignorant about energy. BTW, this thread started out about AGW, and you guys seem to be talking about peak oil without taking into account peak waste product (CO2). I myself often point out that we can go for quite a while by converting coal to ...
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Author: tg
Date: Dec 28, 2007 16:17

... and kept prices down. If R&D was not profitable when energy prices rose we would still be worried about the inability to find whale oil instead of crude. BTW, this thread started out about AGW, and you guys seem to be talking about peak oil without taking into account peak waste product (CO2). I myself often point out that we can go for quite a while by converting coal to liquid fuel ...
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Author: Lysander
Date: Dec 23, 2007 22:41

...are only a finite quantity of things with which we can work -- basically, the matter in the earth's crust. We've had essentially ...is more valuable. Value creation and wealth creation in their most basic senses have to do with taking physical objects and rearranging them.... over the Internet, the cost of every additional copy is basically nil. So the first copy costs you hundreds of millions of ...
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Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Dec 23, 2007 09:03

... wonder why the proponents of global warming - as a man made problem - focus only on the exothermic part of the greenhouse effects, and ignore the endothermic part necessary to support life. AGW scientists are always whining about the disappearance of the Amazon rain forest. In fact they spend a lot of time in biology just for feedback. The earth is not a closed system. Energy is...
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