...:59:14 -0000, "Graculus" <ReplaceWithMyMoniker@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:63vmrpF29dvlfU3@mid.individual.net... Sodding Council have just posted a letter proposing a 20MPH on our estate. It doesn't need a bloody 20MPH limit because nobody comes ...

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:19:03 -0000, Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote: Sodding Council have just posted a letter proposing a 20MPH on our estate. It doesn't need... lived here. Doug will be pleased though. Your council appears to be as full of fuckwits as mine - ... is black, not red) It appears that all the council wanted to achieve was to be seen to be doing ...

"Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:63vmrpF29dvlfU3@mid.individual.net... Sodding Council have just posted a letter proposing a 20MPH on our estate. It doesn't need a bloody 20MPH limit because nobody comes steaming around here anyway. OTOH, they're going to put a traffic island in at the junction at the end ...

Sodding Council have just posted a letter proposing a 20MPH on our estate. It doesn't need a bloody 20MPH limit because nobody comes steaming around here anyway. OTOH, they're going to put a traffic island in at the junction at the end of my road. Fucking top idea that - it'll stop the bus from being able to turn right into the estate. And they're wanting to put loads of signage...

... of creating one, it won't be listened to. As a professional driver you might be surprised how much value your opinion has. A few years ago the local council here decided to permit the construction of a barn in a location that would create a noise nuisance for a handful of agriculural workers and would also have put grain lorries onto a poor exit ...

... the wrong colour (the outside band is black, not red) It appears that all the council wanted to achieve was to be seen to be doing something, instead of addressing the root ... it. Indeed - I suspect they assumed that the residents were as thick as the council members. -- Only some ghastly, dehumanised moron would want to get rid of the Routemaster. Ken Livingstone 2001....

... is now wearing off and the 20 mph speed limit is innefectual in law as the signage is of the wrong colour (the outside band is black, not red) It appears that all the council wanted to achieve was to be seen to be doing something, instead of addressing the root causes of the various problems. Looks like they couldn't get the appropriate traffic order for whatever reason so ...

...25b8-476c-8705-6ce9c628e77f@ 59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... Probably more due to the fact that he was a fellow motorist who liked to speed at every opportunity. Most councils are dominated by motorists and dislike anything which might impede their personal hypermobility. Despite ample evidence that speed kills they are loath to reduce speed limits but are compelled to...

... on that? Some (but not all) speed humps are not nice on a bike, A couple of footwide gaps is always appreciated. some of the pinch-point stuff is just dangerous (the local council had to re-do a load of traffic islands for this reason recently), especially the stuff with a load of narrowly-spaced bollards on the kerb so that cyclists can get squished against them. ...

... strip (which is also more comfortable in a car at higher speeds than lower ones, thus defeating the object of having it there), some of the pinch-point stuff is just dangerous (the local council had to re-do a load of traffic islands for this reason recently), especially the stuff with a load of narrowly-spaced bollards on the kerb so that cyclists can get squished against them....