Kurgan Gringioni wrote: Special circumstances in that the team he took over was 1-15. FIVE years ago! No Playoff wins since, with only two post season appearances! Stop making excuses for failure.

You're the one posing ridiculous strawmans. 1. Asking a question is not a strawman. 2. I'm pretty sure "strawmans" isn't a word. Marty wasn't rewarded for losing those games.... he was rewarded for getting the team into those games. So you're saying that as long as a coach gets his team into the playoffs, he bears no accountability for anything that happens once there. He ...

"badlands420" <bung@hole.com> wrote in message news:rRNsh.13139$t06.1129@newsfe15.phx... Special circumstances in that the team he took over was 1-15. So if you take over a team that had a really shitty record in 2001, you should be rewarded for losing home playoff games to inferior opponents in 2005 and 2007? You should just quit, dude. Your logic has gone from ...

Special circumstances in that the team he took over was 1-15. So if you take over a team that had a really shitty record in 2001, you should be rewarded for losing home playoff games to inferior opponents in 2005 and 2007? You should just quit, dude. Your logic has gone from tenuous to absurd.

PBDepot wrote: Kurgan Gringioni wrote: How about if you show me a coach who went 14-2 and got fired? One example. That's all I ask. Even 13-3 and got fired. Or 12-4. Please, please show me. I like badlands answer to that. Have you ever seen a coach who didn't win a playoff game in five years not get fired? Marty is a special case so there's ...

Kurgan Gringioni wrote: How about if you show me a coach who went 14-2 and got fired? One example. That's all I ask. Even 13-3 and got fired. Or 12-4. Please, please show me. I like badlands answer to that. Have you ever seen a coach who didn't win a playoff game in five years not get fired? Marty is a special case so there's going to be special circumstances involved. ...

PBDepot wrote: Kurgan Gringioni wrote: Do you think everyone that made mistakes during the game should be fired? Only the one's who have made these mistakes before and have not corrected them. The only one I know for a fact that falls under this category is Marty. And yes, he should've been fired and the only reason he wasn't was cause of the contract he has...

Kurgan Gringioni wrote: Do you think everyone that made mistakes during the game should be fired? Only the one's who have made these mistakes before and have not corrected them. The only one I know for a fact that falls under this category is Marty. And yes, he should've been fired and the only reason he wasn't was cause of the contract he has and the current limited talent pool...

PBDepot wrote: Some of you former pollyannas put all the blame on the coach. Did you read the interview with AJ? He said that he felt bad because some of the players that he brought in failed Marty. There's plenty of blame to go around, a huge amount, from the top of the franchise all the way to the bottom and still the team almost won. A single different ...

Kurgan Gringioni wrote: No. I don't think it's written in stone that he'll continue to fail in the postseason. It might not be written in stone, but the odds are heavily favored against him. And you seem perfectly content with that. Some of you former pollyannas put all the blame on the coach. Did you read the interview with AJ? He said that he felt bad because some ...