... to London Bridge. Oh yes, or that. The only journey that gets improved is Chatham -> London Bridge: if you're south of Penge, you can get a direct train or a good change (at Shortlands or Penge). If you're north of there, you either backtrack to Penge, or do a double change via Herne and Tulse Hills, both of which are a bit awkward. Being able to change at Brixton onto...
...at Tulse Hill and take train to London Bridge. The only journey that gets improved is Chatham -> London Bridge: if you're south of Penge, you can get a direct train or a good change (at Shortlands or Penge). If you're north of there, you either backtrack to Penge, or do a double change via Herne and Tulse Hills, both of which are a bit awkward. Being able to change at Brixton ...
... Bridge: no, change at Elephant or Blackfriars The only journey that gets improved is Chatham -> London Bridge: if you're south of Penge, you can get a direct train or a good change (at Shortlands or Penge). If you're north of there, you either backtrack to Penge, or do a double change via Herne and Tulse Hills, both of which are a bit awkward. Being able to change at Brixton ...
... -> London Bridge: no, change at Elephant or Blackfriars The only journey that gets improved is Chatham -> London Bridge: if you're south of Penge, you can get a direct train or a good change (at Shortlands or Penge). If you're north of there, you either backtrack to Penge, or do a double change via Herne and Tulse Hills, both of which are a bit awkward. Being able to change at Brixton ...
... from further out. At the moment I'm thinking Shortlands - London as you could potentially use it via Brockley changing between ...Stations appears to be valid via Brockley to London Bridge and via Shortlands and Crofton Park to Victoria / Blackfriars. I'm not totally ... does pass the "fares rule" (i.e. a ticket from Shortlands to London is the same price as one from Penge). There'...
...to London. I know the obvious answer is a Travelcard, but I'm specifically interested in point-to-points - even if from further out. At the moment I'm thinking Shortlands - London as you could potentially use it via Brockley changing between Penge stations. Not sure about validity via Beckenham Junction and Crystal Palace though. Any advice is appreciated! Dave ...
... for journeys to London. I know the obvious answer is a Travelcard, but I'm specifically interested in point-to-points - even if from further out. At the moment I'm thinking Shortlands - London as you could potentially use it via Brockley changing between Penge stations. Not sure about validity via Beckenham Junction and Crystal Palace though. Any advice is appreciated! Dave
... the Thames and East London. Neither come cheap, nor should they really be included in a comparative "cost per mile". CTRL also has the lengthy North Downs tunnel, and chose an expensive routev through the centre of Ashford rather than, for example, following the M20 further north.AIUI it has also picked up some other costs, including the Shortlands diveunder. Peter Peter
...impossible to show any of the roads in that area properly with Westway on top of them. Similarly, I recently found out that if you're heading west along Talgarth Road, you can do a u-turn under the Hammersmith flyover and then turn left into Shortlands, without going around the Hammersmith one-way system. I've never seen that in a map, and my TomTom doesn't know it's there either.
