"Wicked Uncle Nigel" <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message news:o9CV8gIaQBgHJAY2@rcav8r.demon.co.uk... Went with big sis today to look at a Toyota, dealing with the same good lad that we've spoken to before. After a brief chat he said "Would you like to test drive it?". Yes we would. He drags one out, and throws the keys to me. "Off you go". He didn't feel the need