... that the angels with the incence being the prayers of the saints as liyteral as well? Nobody can fully comprehend *what* heaven...the uneducated: 1) Nobody - as in all of us. 2) fully - complete 3) comprehend - understand/ gain revelation 4) what -... literal ? Orthodox bishops and Fathers have their statements quoted, no less. So it's not the universal opinion of Orthodoxy...

... that the angels with the incence being the prayers of the saints as liyteral as well? Nobody can fully comprehend *what* heaven...on it. Orthodox bishops and Fathers have their statements quoted, no less. So it's not the universal opinion of Orthodoxy...org/featuresarticle/2004/02/1EBA1CA0-1B3D-4FB1-AA15-F1412B3FB6F8.html?napage=2 Akribia is only worthwhile when you can use it as a...

... that the angels with the incence being the prayers of the saints as liyteral as well? Nobody can fully comprehend *what* heaven ... me on it. Orthodox bishops and Fathers have their statements quoted, no less. So it's not the universal opinion of Orthodoxy ....org/featuresarticle/2004/02/1EBA1CA0-1B3D-4FB1-AA15-F1412B3FB6F8.html?napage=2 Akribia is only worthwhile when you can use it as a ...

...confirmed that Christ is in heaven which was my only point in the above. So if Christ is -literally- in heaven, why then can we not see that the angels with the incence being the prayers of the saints as liyteral as well? You do believe angels exist right? Are you saying that only 144,000 saved *are* literal, along with a Borg like cube for the new Jerusalem ? No the Coptic Orthodox I ...

... his bride when they are One flesh. Except twinkie are not glorified saints in Christ's presence. The comparison is quite juvenile. Man is but ... but dust when Christ raises them up? The only person talking about glorified saints here is you. Why not talk about glorifying God instead of glorifying saints ? because -you- brought the topic of St John the baptist up, not I. ...

... now markets the shadow/mirror/copy/reproduction ? Except twinkie are not glorified saints in Christ's presence. The comparison is quite juvenile. Man is but dust, a breath. The only person talking about glorified saints here is you. Why not talk about glorifying God instead of glorifying saints ? We already proved this line of thought wrong when you resorted to ...

...resurreected. IOW this IS the holy (sanctified) flesh that WILL be glorified and the spirit of the saint is ALREADY glorified in Paradise with Christ. If the bones of Elisha were able to raise the ...be talking about an exalted Twinkie as a means to know God. Except twinkie are not glorified saints in Christ's presence. The comparison is quite juvenile. If you can't justify something...

...was silence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before...should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne...the incense, with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God from the angelÂ’s ...of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. In *heaven*. Your particular church sanctuary isn't ...

... was silence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before ...should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne... the incense, with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God from the angel’s hand... of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. In *heaven*. Your particular church sanctuary isn't ...

... was silence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before ... should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. ... of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God from the angelÂ’s hand. ... of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. Since the word copy brings negative images to your ...