All you need to do is replace the secondary cam and they work great! <tschnautz@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1152251169.454351.186320@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... (Otherwise know as the "Quadra-bog") Don't forget "Rottenchester" and "Quadra-junk" Eisboch wrote: "Ookie Wonderslug" <1234@qwerty.org> wrote in message news:qkira2p4t45bla37rhcms6m4fb7qhoetqn@4ax