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On 22 Sep 2008 19:43:42 GMT, jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote: >Carl Fogel wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Is there a report of all tests with discussion of the >>>>>>>>> laboratory protocols giving us evidence that the different >>>>>>>>> tests are comparable? Is each test run at a wide range of >>>>>>>>> tire pressures, at around 5 or 7 psi steps? Do these tests >>>>>>>>> show that their road glued     

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Author: carlfogel
Date: Sep 22, 2008 13:32

Carl Fogel wrote: Is there a report of all tests with discussion of the laboratory protocols giving us evidence that the different tests are comparable? Is each test run at a wide range of tire pressures, at around 5 or 7 psi steps? Do these tests show that their road glued tubulars exhibit the same ccr to tire pressure response as clincher
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On 22 Sep 2008 09:23:41 GMT, jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote: >Ozark Bicycle wrote: > >>>>>>> Is there a report of all tests with discussion of the >>>>>>> laboratory protocols giving us evidence that the different >>>>>>> tests are comparable? Is each test run at a wide range of tire >>>>>>> pressures, at around 5 or 7 psi steps? Do these tests show that >>>>>>> their road glued tubulars     

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Author: jobst.brandt
Date: Sep 22, 2008 12:43

On Sep 19, 11:28 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote: "jim beam" <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote in message news:zYadnfieorld5EnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net... Carl Sundquist wrote: "jim beam" <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote in message news:U7ednX3Y9MDF8knVnZ2dnUVZ_h6dnZ2d@speakeasy.net... Carl Sundquist wrote: I have a set of wheels (made
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jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote: > Ozark Bicycle wrote: > >>>>>>> Is there a report of all tests with discussion of the >>>>>>> laboratory protocols giving us evidence that the different >>>>>>> tests are comparable? Is each test run at a wide range of tire >>>>>>> pressures, at around 5 or 7 psi steps? Do these tests show that >>>>>>> their road glued tubulars exhibit the same ccr to     

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Author: carlfogel
Date: Sep 22, 2008 12:10

Ozark Bicycle wrote: Is there a report of all tests with discussion of the laboratory protocols giving us evidence that the different tests are comparable? Is each test run at a wide range of tire pressures, at around 5 or 7 psi steps? Do these tests show that their road glued tubulars exhibit the same ccr to tire pressure response as clincher tires
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On Sep 15, 1:27 pm, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote: > On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:34:41 -0700 (PDT), pm <zzyzx.xy...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > >On Sep 15, 11:28 am, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote: > >> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:30:10 -0500, Ben C <spams...@spam.eggs> wrote: > >> >On 2008-09-14, carlfo...@comcast.net <carlfo...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> >> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:05:39 -0500, Tim McNamara     

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Author: almost_fast
Date: Sep 22, 2008 11:45

On 2008-09-15, carlfogel@comcast.net <carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:59:33 -0500, Ben C <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote: On 2008-09-15, carlfogel@comcast.net <carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:34:41 -0700 (PDT), pm <zzyzx.xyzzy@gmail.com> wrote: [...] It certainly makes sense that the stiffness changes as a function of displacement
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On 2008-09-15, Peter Cole <peter_cole@verizon.net> wrote: > Ben C wrote: [...] >> What's going on? Are the lateral force lines just fakes, or did they >> come out of some kind of calculation or FEA? If so what exactly was the >> model that produced that smooth asymmetric stiffness all the way down to >> zero? > > Jobst indicated in a recent response that he didn't use the FEA to > generate     

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Author: jim beam
Date: Sep 22, 2008 05:33

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:59:33 -0500, Ben C <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote: On 2008-09-15, carlfogel@comcast.net <carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:34:41 -0700 (PDT), pm <zzyzx.xyzzy@gmail.com> wrote: [...] It certainly makes sense that the stiffness changes as a function of displacement, as the asymmetric bracing angles change with displacement. But if nothing
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Author: jobst.brandt
Date: Sep 22, 2008 02:23

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Author: pm
Date: Sep 15, 2008 14:46

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Author: Ben C
Date: Sep 15, 2008 14:37

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Author: Ben C
Date: Sep 15, 2008 14:28

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Author: carlfogel
Date: Sep 15, 2008 14:26

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