David Buchner wrote: And the other thing was, it seemed we had some confusion about whether it's a moral good to have bad things happen to bad guys. Right. "Apart from consequences," that is. I guess this is what I don't get. Why apart from the consequences? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retributive_justice "Retributive justice maintains that proportionate punishment is

Agent Cooper wrote: Mark N wrote: Agent Cooper wrote: Mark N wrote: What is it that you don't understand? The "feeling" that David is talking about? Or what people mean when they say that they believe in retribution? Or the arguments that people offer in support of retribution? Or all of the above? (Incidentally, I'm pretty sure that there

Agent Cooper wrote: Mark N wrote: What is it that you don't understand? The "feeling" that David is talking about? Or what people mean when they say that they believe in retribution? Or the arguments that people offer in support of retribution? Or all of the above? (Incidentally, I'm pretty sure that there is no one who has less of an understanding of the retributivist

Mark N wrote: Agent Cooper wrote: Mark N wrote: Of course, anyone who would be able to "have fun" by torturing and killing someone has much bigger problems! Famously, Nietzsche thought that our culture was unusual in having such attitudes, What attitude are you referring to? The attitude that there is something wrong with people who enjoy torturing

Agent Cooper wrote: Mark N wrote: David Buchner wrote: I'll admit that any feeling I have that beyond this, it's a actually *good* thing, worthy of a warm glowy feeling -- is more a satisfying, more-or-less spontaneous emotional response, as opposed to something I've figured out formally, or can support rationally. Fair enough. My angle on this is that I