... Realize that I need to buy a BruteForce 750i, cuz that's what old guys do 3. Buy the DS450 cuz it's the cool thing to have Trick out the Shee and ride that bitch... 99RR ( and don't give me that old crap I'm 55 ). Old guys ride Yamaha Bruin 250's.....and we go reeeel slow..... Bill age 56, survivor of more car and motorcycle wrecks then I care to remember! :(