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Re: Realism (was: What is Truth?)     

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Author: Goober
Date: Nov 3, 2006 03:55

... the appearance of mental causation makes it seem that causal closure is false, if that's what you mean. After all, if empirical evidence could count against causal closure then that would make the truth of causal closure an empirical issue. And I don't view it as an empirical issue. I have much the same view regarding determinism, since you drew the parallel. Evidence from QM ...
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Author: chazwin
Date: Nov 1, 2006 23:59

... of what a cat is. If you say a cat is on the table I will not see your cat on your table by my cat on my table. 'What... is truth? A mobile army of metaphors, metonymies, anthropomorphisms' For Nietzsche, truth or reality was merely the solidification of old metaphors.
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Author: 1Z
Date: Nov 1, 2006 03:17

... that the appearance of mental causation makes it seem that causal closure is false, if that's what you mean. After all, if empirical evidence could count against causal closure then that would make the truth of causal closure an empirical issue. And I don't view it as an empirical issue. I have much the same view regarding determinism, since you drew the parallel. Evidence from QM ...
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Author: Goober
Date: Nov 1, 2006 02:44

...the appearance of mental causation makes it seem that causal closure is false, if that's what you mean. After all, if empirical evidence could count against causal closure then that would make the truth of causal closure an empirical issue. And I don't view it as an empirical issue. I have much the same view regarding determinism, since you drew the parallel. Evidence from QM experiments...
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Author: Goober
Date: Nov 1, 2006 00:59

...> you call it an efect. No I don't. Where there is a flow of activity I call it a process. This may be useful as a description, I doubt it. but it is nowhere near a Truth. If anyone were to say such things, you'd be right. But you're just trying to foist on me numerous straw men because I never said anything of the kind. The notion of linear causation, where one...
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Author: Sphere
Date: Oct 31, 2006 19:52

.... Where there is a general flux you call it an agent. Where there is a flow of activity you call it an efect. This may be useful as a description, but it is nowhere near a Truth. The notion of linear causation, where one cause leads to one effect, is nothing more than a fiction. This fiction may be useful, but it is not correct. It is particularly incorrect when talking of primal ...
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Author: 1Z
Date: Oct 31, 2006 16:58

... difference rebuts the "right angles" claim. That realism is the default can be argued on a number of grounds. Realism is the default because it is the... of folk philosophy. The fact that realism is the only naive position is ...is because language itself is biased toward realism. Yes. Which is a point in favour of realism. Also, the reason a system can't handle ...
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Author: Craig Franck
Date: Oct 31, 2006 15:42

...fact that I can detect a difference rebuts the "right angles" claim. That realism is the default can be argued on a number of grounds. Realism is the default because it is the result of animal intuition. In..., like a house). This is because language itself is biased toward realism. Also, the reason a system can't handle something like "It's...
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Author: 1Z
Date: Oct 31, 2006 09:43

.... All this means is you are assuming a realist framework/terminology and reject things that don't measure up. The fact that I can detect a difference rebuts the "right angles" claim. That realism is the default can be argued on a number of grounds. (An interesting one is that anti-real claims lean heavily on the metaphorical use of realistic language. To think that is is all "in" ...
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Author: 1Z
Date: Oct 30, 2006 16:22

... wired up to think in terms of cause and effect. But Hume's argument is also an attack on Realism. That is why the irrefutable form of Realism has Reality as a logical construct. Realism is a value judgement: it means caring more for explanation, however refutable, than irrefutable certainty. -- Craig ...
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