...-4b6a-9fd2-4791ddda8f5c@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... I definitely do not accept Crowley's definition of magic, nor do I spell the word with a 'k'. Since you're not talking about ... to disparage Crowley's definition of magick. We seem to be in agreement that what Isaac was talking about in Real Magic was not magick. Let's not allow ourselves to be distracted by a homophone.

...an irreverent answer would be magic that doesn't involve speaking...The story goes that 'high' magic was generally practiced in towns...peasants. So people doing high magic could speak Latin, study books...parchment and so on. Low magic was simpler, not necessarily used...I don't intend to. Real magic includes hardly any theology...single clear dividing line between magic and religion in the debate...

...gmail.com> wrote: On Jun 10, 3:59 am, Chade wrote: I mentioned...as to why my criticisms of real magic and yours were received differently... processes that Isaac thinks that magic and religious rituals share. Though,... a worse description of how magic actually does feel. How would ... a worse description of how magic actually does feel? Because during ...

On Jun 10, 3:59 am, Chade wrote: I mentioned Isaac'... separately and quietly. The reason real magic was picked for a ... Makes sense. It covers low magic, a somewhat neglected subject on ... do you mean by "low magic"? It's a book about ... a worse description of how magic actually does feel. How would ...a worse description of how magic actually does feel? Because during...

...can help my own thinking about real magic. So is there anything we...their critical thinking skills. Yet studying magic is the equivalent of going trough...have some distance, like reviewing a magical diary. Practicing doing it then ... things. What other pieces of magical jargon do you believe there are... a worse description of how magic actually does feel? Because during ...

... good and bad things about Real Magic, but you've just ... things. What other pieces of magical jargon do you believe there are...'power' and 'energy' in many magic books and be left with ... or energy going on during magic. However, that's just how ... a worse description of how magic actually does feel. How would ... a worse description of how magic actually does feel? Basically, I'...

...saying good and bad things about Real Magic, but you've just been saying bad things. Ridiculous. So is...different things. What other pieces of magical jargon do you believe there are... 'power' and 'energy' in many magic books and be left with the... or energy going on during magic. However, that's just how it... a worse description of how magic actually does feel. Basically, I'...

... the nadir of IB's Real Magic, contradicting much of the ... such as psychology and parapsychology. IB sees parapsychology as an opportunity ... continuing his efforts to simplify magic. This leads us to something ... such a small scale then magic fire starting, water into wine,... around with the idea that magic can be bound up with ... magick? What other pieces of magical jargon do you believe there ...

..." <mikabot@gmail.com> wrote in message news:01c0102d-f96f-4f6d-8b68-109e8ee3d802@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Jun 24, 3:51 pm, "Flower of romance" wrote: Why did he spell it with a k? To distinguish what he was writing about from magic. Tom provided Crowley's explanation in a post upthread: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.magick/msg/...

mika wrote: On Jun 24, 3:51 pm, "Flower of romance" wrote: Why did he spell... a k? To distinguish what he was writing about from magic. Tom provided Crowley's explanation in a post upthread: http://groups.../849b1fbc4f278b87?dmode=source To distinguish what he was writing about from stage magic ie conjuring, sleight of hand etc. FFF Dirk http://www.transcendence.me...