"Highflyer" <john@siu.edu> wrote in news:1mv3kk.smm.19.1@news.alt.net: Bertie The reason we teach straight ahead is sound. One has to consider some kind of average pilot in dealing with this issue. Whether or not it can be done successfully as a turn around is so full of variables it muddies the equation. Considering altitude, wind, and exact position in relation