...you're experienced you can do it your way unless you have to follow the coding ... C you were either an assembly-language dinosaur, or a scripting weenie of one sort ...time ago. I almost feel like a dinosaur myself for remembering it. Now the TIOBE ... for PHP's niche? Or Visual Basic? Perl? Python? Ruby? That's the top ten ... claim that Forth is in some vague way better than C, just like today nobody ...