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Author: hmoobthawj
Date: May 6, 2008 09:41

On May 6, 10:31 am, tsujsuadl...@hotmail.com wrote: #1 temptation for hmong ces yog cov christainity tuaj deev hmoob mus church xwb mas....just look at the numbers..., muab hais dav thiab deb ces yuav tsi nkag siab...hais yus kiag es lawd thiaj paub pob.... yaweh Yawg yauveb aw Cov ntseeg cais yog paab cawm Hmoob txoj sia xwb os. Lawv hlub ...
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Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: May 6, 2008 08:31

#1 temptation for hmong ces yog cov christainity tuaj deev hmoob mus church xwb mas....just look at the numbers..., muab hais dav thiab deb ces yuav tsi nkag siab...hais yus kiag es lawd thiaj paub pob.... yaweh
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Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: May 7, 2008 14:04

hmoob.. your example is faulty....why? simply because you (or in this case...the missionaries) already assume that what they said/preach is true...koj los yeej xav li no thiab...that is why you still dont' undertand that why they said is "temptation". the belief that they are telling the truth is just a belief...the fact is/was...mong were tempted..and some fell for it... yaweh
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Author: hmoobthawj
Date: May 7, 2008 07:05

... missionary said to convert mong are "temptations" (kev ntxeev ntxias as you said... yog muaj tseeb cais tsi yog temptation, rau qhov koj tsi dag. ... koj dag xwb cais yog temptation. For example 1: Yog kuv ... heev li no cais yog temptation rau qhov kuv dag. Qhov ... cais dag mas thiaj yog temptation tiamsis qhia qhov yog mas ... pom tiam christianity mas yog temptation tiamsis kuv hais tias tsi ...
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Author: Born2beHmong
Date: May 7, 2008 06:55

...: Tsujsuad, i do not agree with your 2nd here 2ndly, you assumed that what they said (temptation) is "qhov tseeb"... You said Christianity are temptation.  I want you to know that Christian are not temptation, what they teach are real, you may believe or not believe it will happen some day.  If you take ...
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Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: May 6, 2008 14:32

... as what it is. as you said 'tempation" is "kev ntxeev ntxias"...cov uas qaug quav ces yuav "belief" as you are in the words of the bible. if you mix belief and facts, then koj yuav hais lus tom ntej tom qab li tam sim no.... and i never said chrsitainity is a tempation...i said what the missionary said to convert mong are "temptations" (kev ntxeev ntxias as you said). yaweh
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Author: hmoobthawj
Date: May 6, 2008 14:16

Tsujsuad, i do not agree with your 2nd here 2ndly, you assumed that what they said (temptation) is "qhov tseeb"... You said Christianity are temptation. I want you to know that Christian are not temptation, what they teach are real, you may believe or not believe it will happen some day. If you take it to ...
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Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: May 6, 2008 11:51

... 2 lu lug for you.....you said... "Los lus temptation mas yog kev dag, kev ntxeev ntxias koj tib ... tseeb... 2ndly, you assumed that what they said (temptation) is "qhov tseeb"...my friend, this is a belief (..." out...and talk only about "qhov tseeb" on what temptation is. are you confused yet? again, keep "... is "qhov tseeb")" out and lets talk about temptation as what it is. yaweh
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Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: May 6, 2008 11:44

hmooob...you said... "Los lus temptation mas yog kev dag, kev ntxeev ntxias koj tib neeg xav tias qhov nws hais ntawm tseeb koj neeg ua li nws hais" exactly my point... do you have anything else to say? yaweh
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Author: hmoobthawj
Date: May 6, 2008 10:56

...yog qhov tseeb naj. Los lus temptation mas yog kev dag, kev ntxeev... hais. Christianity tsi tau yog temptation, rau qhov christianity hais qhov ... tsi tau dag leej twg. Temptation mas yog li no. Kauj ... tsi tau thiab poob nyiaj. Temptation mas yog li no: Ntseeg ... cov dawb tus Vajtswv xwb. Temptation cais yog li no: Txiv ... christianity qhia mas tsi yog temptation tiamsis yog loving care for ...
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