... that pine will be able to drive. Thanks all for the replies. I will look forward to trying this out. It works great. This is my epochal first email "via" Plan 9. :D +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+

...like you need to run vt first, which gives you a vt100 terminal emulator that pine will be able to drive. Thanks all for the replies. I will look forward to trying this out. +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+

> More specifically, I can ssh from Plan 9 into my account at SDF (sdf.lonestar.org aka freeshell.org). I've played around with ssh options some and improved what I am seeing in the terminal connected to that account, but when I fire up Pine to attempt reading my email, I get a screen that is 1/2 muck/garbage characters. It sounds like you need to run vt first, which gives you ...

> More specifically, I can ssh from Plan 9 into my account at SDF (sdf.lonestar.org aka freeshell.org). I've played around with ssh options some and improved what I am seeing in the terminal connected to that account, but when I fire up Pine to attempt reading my email, I get a screen that is 1/2 muck/garbage characters. going on the assumption that the "garbage" characters are...

..., I can ssh from Plan 9 into my account at SDF (sdf.lonestar.org aka freeshell.org). I've played around with ssh options some and ... (2.0 or thereabouts, IIRC). Thanks, GB +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+

...somewhere? ... the coding is currently beyond me (most things are, but that's an excuse and maybe ... it could be a project) so it is essentially a hypothetical question. G +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+

... special I need to do to ngc2000.dat.gz to make it available for scat to use ... Apologies if these are dopey musings ... am still very much exploring. Thanks, Glenn +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+

... != DSS, at least as far as I know. +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+ You're correct. ngc2000 has been made freely available for non- commercial use; ...

... with the system. I had always assumed that was the reason. A 103-CD Plan 9 distro is not something I would enjoy. well, ngc2000 != DSS, at least as far as I know. +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+

... more about this. Thanks, Glenn +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+ From the scat man page: The Digitized Sky Survey, 102 CD-ROMs, is not ...