... dab txi, daj poj yawm txwv txoob, dab neeb dab tshuaj, dab poj ntxoog, dab tuag, dab noj nyoog haus txias etc.... Cov coj dab, kuj tsis coj tag txhua yam dab. cov lawbdab, kuj tsis lawb tag txhua yam dab. Yog li cia muab hu li qhov sawvdaws twb niaj hnub siv li no xwb: Cov Ntseeg Vajtswv / Ntseeg Yesxus = Chiristian Cov Ntseeg Hmoob Dabqhuas = Hmong Folk Reliegion http://en.wikipedia....

tsuaj, paab koj tu-sab lau. Koj yuavtau sibzug has kuas moob, cov coj dlaab, lawb dlaab, tsi ua dlaabtsi le, kuas puab lug txhawb zug rua koj lub tswv yim kws ceev qhov tseeb. Tsi ... ntawd, koj yuav tau rau-sab has kuas meskas hab lwm haiv tuabneeg tsi txhob siv lu lug coj dlaab hab lawb dlaab ntawd. Ca koj tuableeg has xwb txhajle tseem moob ov. Koj puas nyam cov lug nuav? Tsi txhawb los ...

... what "holy" is? The church? If "God demand man to be holy" then all men are doomed. Even priests who have pledged their lives to God are far from being "holy". Are you saying the being simply "lawb dab", one is holy? If God has to punish in order prove his power, then how is God different from the Devil? Isn't punishing the Devil's job? If both God and the Devil must punish us for ...

... dab to pog thiab yawg lawv tug ntsujplig and to Vajtswv tus ntsujplig in which I disagree. Tus plig is not a dab, though dab is a plig or in translation, a spirit. Are you people call; dab niam dab txiv, dab pog thiab dab yawg or you call plig niam, plig txiv, plig pog thiab plig yawg? It boils down to how you define "dab". if you do not wish to be called "coj dab or lawb dab".

On Aug 22, 7:41 pm, tsujsuadl...@hotmail.com wrote: vim.. kuv xav mas.... 2 qho no thwj dua 1. kev cai hmoob 2. kev cai mekas (vim tias cov no yeej lawb hmoob kevcai es mus adopt meskas li lawm tiag ne) yaweh Yaweh, Koj twb has tas koj tau kawm bible nuas ua caag koj tseem described has tas cov Moob Christian nuas yog coj kev cai Amelikas nuas mas. ...

... los lus coj dab thiab lawb dab coj los tham. Yeej ...tej kev li kev cai lawb lawm ntau yam......tej yam...tsis txhaum kev ntseeg los nej muab lawb tib si.....nej...neej lawb dab......kuv tham rau kuv tias thaum xyoo 1962...qeej.....ces nws txawm mus lawb dab coj kev ntseeg.......tsis...los lus coj dab thiab lawb dab no kiag.......los lus...hais txiv lawm nawb los lawb no naj. phwvnyawm, Kuv saib...

... no los twb cover tagnrho thiab...vim tias tus muaj dab quas dab nyeg, ntuj dab, dab yawmsaub, dab tim tswv, dab yexus.....dab ntxwj nyoog..etc.. hais txog lawd dab no los....sawvdaws twg lawb tibyam thiab...peb teev cov dab zoo xwb..tsi teev cov dab phem...temsis...cov dab zoo (including god of bible) los twb ua peb tuag tau... qhov tseeb ces....one does not differentiate te other.......

... lo lus nod. Raws li 2-3 tug twb tau suggest lawm. 1. Coj Hmoob Kevcai/Qub kevca -- tsis txhob hais tias "coj dab". 2. Coj Kevcai Tshiab/Ntseeg Vaj Tswv -- tsis txhob hais tias "lawb dab" The suggested terms are more accurate and neutral. Vimhlub, Kuv xav hais tias lo lu "Coj kev chai Tshiab" no yuav tsis ntsim nyog siv cia sim cov "Coj Christian" noj yuav zoo mloog dua....

vim.. kuv xav mas.... 2 qho no thwj dua 1. kev cai hmoob 2. kev cai mekas (vim tias cov no yeej lawb hmoob kevcai es mus adopt meskas li lawm tiag ne) yaweh

.... Yog li, peb yuav tau take responsibility to neutralize/clarify these terms for present and future usage. Raws li kuv xav, peb yuav tau hloov 2 lo lus nod. Raws li 2-3 tug twb tau suggest lawm. 1. Coj Hmoob Kevcai/Qub kevca -- tsis txhob hais tias "coj dab". 2. Coj Kevcai Tshiab/Ntseeg Vaj Tswv -- tsis txhob hais tias "lawb dab" The suggested terms are more accurate and neutral.