On Apr 5, 7:59 pm, "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote desperately: Can't we have simple justice, morality & ethics without all the controlling and cultural bullshit?! Answer that if you can. Why, yes, I CAN answer that for you: "Justice, Morality, AND Ethics" are all cultural... almost exclusively cultural in nature. I can't imagine any of them even existing without...