On Sep 17, 5:51 pm, 2cool4school <cuttlefish...@yahoo.com> wrote: Re: could 250,000 eye-witnesses all be wrong? Absolutely.  It happens every day. Especially during political conventions.

...prayer.  It is being proven powerful.  Check out the medical journals. Nope.  It's just a delusion held by the weak minded. -- Third root canal - averted. Hip Hip Hurrah! Re: could 250,000 eye-witnesses all be wrong? Absolutely. It happens every day.

... absurd, but perhaps psychotic and sociopathic. Let's not forget `possibly suicidal' as well. In fact, you could probably win at ... just about what passes for normal around here, if you grant any weight to the mutterings of the alt.slack political class. ... kinds of argument because they have the least liklihood of spurring any sort of productive action in the world of practical undertakings....

...> Yes, that's how to solve the world's problems; imagine an invisible man who lives in the sky, then ask him to fix them. Go to Google and do a search for 'Descartes' Wager'. You'll probably find a Wikipedia article about the subject. Read and digest the article. See if it makes any change to your outlook. -- Liverpool. European City Of Culture 2008 http://www.liverpool08.com

... Systematic Review got it right when looking at the current state of the art. "The evidence presented so far is interesting enough to justify further study into the human aspects of the effects of prayer. However it is impossible to prove or disprove in trials any supposed benefit that derives from God's response to prayer." Keep praying then. It'll make you feel better.

...>who doesn't pray to him. They all do. And, for perfectly sensible reasons, given their assumptions. It's just that, at any given point in history, most of them lack the political muscle to make it so. However, it is usually the case that, at any given point in time, at least one of them does. Christianity had its day.

... an illusion ? If you manage to love those who want to harm you, then you will gain something beyond any imagination. Anything opposing to the above is at least suspicious (don't you agree with that, deep in your soul?) Keep you eyes open, for the things to come... and do not be afraid, because your soul is untouchable. Do not care ...

... Overall, though, I think the boys and girls from the Cochrane Systematic Review got it right when looking at the current state of the art. "The evidence presented so far is interesting enough to justify further study into the human aspects of the effects of prayer. However it is impossible to prove or disprove in trials any supposed benefit that derives from God's response to prayer."

... the help of our prayer on world’s future events…………………………….. Yes, that's how to solve the world's problems;  imagine an invisible man who lives in the sky, then ask him to fix them. Why don't you do a study on the power of prayer.  It is being proven powerful.  Check out the medical journals. The power of money is greater then the power of prayer! Ask any church leader

... an illusion ? If you manage to love those who want to harm you, then you will gain something beyond any imagination. Anything opposing to the above is at least suspicious (don't you agree with that, deep in your soul?) Keep you eyes open, for the things to come... and do not be afraid, because your soul is untouchable. Do not ...