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Author: mohor-yen
Date: Jul 23, 2008 17:50

...you understand ....that the flaws in Confucius teaching cannot be followed. Singapore govt...Confucius society....for a very good reason...so that their citizens WILL ...> like the peasants of old China...with total submission and fear....> changing and ALWAYS improving... However, Confucius is dead,...he is not ... system. Changes in Japan: Like China, Japan was a sick society ...
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Author: abianchen
Date: Jul 23, 2008 03:12

... focused on social justice and good government. Ren or benevolence was ... include The Analects (sayings of Confucius) in their social curriculums, they ... understand ....that the flaws in Confucius teaching cannot be followed. Singapore ...> changing and ALWAYS improving... However,  Confucius is dead,...he is not ... system. Changes in Japan: Like China, Japan was a sick society ...
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Author: abianchen
Date: Jul 23, 2008 02:58

... the following: [3.19] 定公問:「君使臣,臣事君,如之何?」 孔子對曰:「君使臣以禮,臣事君以忠。」 In this case Confucius did not say 忠 is BLIND 忠 but only one... BLIND obedience!!! This is not Confucius teaching about people's obedience of authority.. ... it is the relationship between the emperor and his mandarins. Confucius emphasis '忠' in his teaching. The connotation of '忠' ..being ...
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Author: baldeagle
Date: Jul 23, 2008 02:45

... you understand ....that the flaws in Confucius teaching cannot be followed. Singapore govt ... Confucius society....for a very good reason...so that their citizens WILL not...leaders like the peasants of old China...with total submission and fear. ... changing and ALWAYS improving... However, Confucius is dead,...he is not ... system. Changes in Japan: Like China, Japan was a sick society ...
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Author: mohor-yen
Date: Jul 22, 2008 22:48

... loyalty, it's two-way street, not BLIND obedience!!! This is not Confucius teaching about people's obedience of authority.. it is the relationship between the emperor and his mandarins. Confucius emphasis 'ÖÒ' in his teaching. The connotation of 'ÖÒ' ..being loyal regardless of consequences. It require.. blind obedience.
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Author: mohor-yen
Date: Jul 22, 2008 22:41

... loyalty, it's two-way street, not BLIND obedience!!! This is not Confucius teaching about people's obedience of authority.. it is the relationship between the emperor and his mandarins. Confucius emphasis '©¾' in his teaching. The connotation of '©¾' ..being loyal regardless of consequences. It require.. blind obedience.
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Author: abian_chen
Date: Jul 22, 2008 20:56

... words need update but his teaching is still valid today This ... agree...SOME of Confucius teachings are good.... Confucius' teachings ...on family ... the cultural foundations of modern China. This important contribution of his ...of governance,... why students in China defer to ideas in the...in Taiwan and Singapore where Confucius influence is the strongest. .....It...
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Author: baldeagle
Date: Jul 22, 2008 20:39

...' words need update but his teaching is still valid today This much...we agree...SOME of Confucius teachings are good.... Confucius' teachings ...on family ...laid the cultural foundations of modern China. This important contribution of his is... of governance,... why students in China defer to ideas in the ...but in Taiwan and Singapore where Confucius influence is the strongest. .....It'...
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Author: abianchen1
Date: Jul 22, 2008 19:18

...with loyalty, it's two-way street, not BLIND obedience!!! This is not Confucius teaching about people's obedience of authority.. it is the relationship between the emperor and his mandarins. Confucius emphasis '忠' in his teaching. The connotation of '忠' ..being loyal regardless of consequences. It require.. blind obedience.
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Author: baldeagle
Date: Jul 22, 2008 19:13

...king with loyalty, it's two-way street, not BLIND obedience!!! This is not Confucius teaching about people's obedience of authority.. it is the relationship between the emperor and his mandarins. Confucius emphasis '忠' in his teaching. The connotation of '忠' ..being loyal regardless of consequences. It require.. blind obedience.
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