....com> wrote: Txawjxab, Kuv paub tias tus ntawv Las Tees tsim rau cov A-Hmao ces yog Samuel Pollard (Pollard Script), Savina tsim rau cov Hmoob Nyab Laj tiam sis cov Hmu ... no. Ntawv Latin Hmoobdawb (Hmong), Latin Hmoobntsuab (Mong), Latin Hmoobnyablaj, Latin Hmoobnraug A Hmao), Latin Hmoobdub (Hmu), thiab Latin Hmoobliab (Xiong) puav leej yog ntawv Hmoob, tabsis nyias ...

Txawjxab, Kuv paub tias tus ntawv Las Tees tsim rau cov A-Hmao ces yog Samuel Pollard (Pollard Script), Savina tsim rau cov Hmoob Nyab Laj tiam sis cov Hmu thiab ...siv niaj hnub no.  Ntawv Latin Hmoobdawb (Hmong), Latin Hmoobntsuab (Mong), Latin Hmoobnyablaj, Latin Hmoobnraug A Hmao), Latin Hmoobdub (Hmu), thiab Latin Hmoobliab (Xiong) puav leej yog ntawv Hmoob, tabsis nyias sau nyias ...

... sijhawm ntawv cov ntawv mas muab piv tau tsis txawv li cov ntawv Latin Hmoob siv niaj hnub no. Ntawv Latin Hmoobdawb (Hmong), Latin Hmoobntsuab (Mong), Latin Hmoobnyablaj, Latin Hmoobnraug A Hmao), Latin Hmoobdub (Hmu), thiab Latin Hmoobliab (Xiong) puav leej yog ntawv Hmoob, tabsis nyias sau nyias raws nyias lus. Txawv tsis ntau li ntawv Hmoobdawb thiab ntawv Hmoobntsuab los yeej tsis ...

... haiv neeg (Miao) hu lawv tus kheej ua A-Hmao. Raws li kev soj ntsuam mas thaum ub Hmub, A-Hmao thiab Hmoob yeej yog tib haiv neeg xwb, tabsis ... xyoo ces thiaj li ncau los ua Hmub, A-Hmao thiab Hmoob lawm xwb. Tamsis no cov Hmub thaib A-Hmao hais lus mas peb yuav luag tsis to taub li, qhov no txhais hais tias Hmub, A-Hmao thiab Hmoob twb sib ncau los lawm ntev heev lawm...

.... the reason why "hmong" and "mong" are such big deals is because of NDX said, that we use other's txuj ci. i am sure, if we use our own txuj ci, "hmong", "mong", "hmu", "a hmao", etc... would not be such a sore point. we would have explicit, solid common ground at a linguistic level serving as a foundation for the higher levels of our progress and challenges. i wrote a lot ...

.... the reason why "hmong" and "mong" are such big deals is because of NDX said, that we use other's txuj ci. i am sure, if we use our own txuj ci, "hmong", "mong", "hmu", "a hmao", etc... would not be such a sore point. we would have explicit, solid common ground at a linguistic level serving as a foundation for the higher levels of our progress and challenges. i wrote a lot and quickly, ...

...; e.g. some like the Hmu had even made a point to have their own ethnic be identified separately from the Miao label...others that he noticed to have very distinct differences with Hmong are the A-Hmao and Qo/Khe Xiong (Qos Xyooj)... Tiam sis thov nco tias nov yog luag tuaj tshawb pom txog yus cov neeg ntawm ib sab xwb (one very narrowed dimension/observation); piv txwv, kab li kev cai, ...

...i believe this completely, but it could be possible suav is derived from xia. Hmong was originally pronounced HMI-UN. hmi-un? where did you get this from? is this from dab neeg? Therefore, HMI-UN --> HMIU -->HMAO, HMjO, HMONG, MONG, HMU, XIONG, SEUNG, et.. in Hmong language and MIAU, MIAO, MAN etc.. in other languages. how do we go from hmi-un to xiong, seung? i can see the ...

Hi, Suav comes from XIA. XI = s in Hmong and A = ua in Hmong Hmong was originally pronounced HMI-UN. Therefore, HMI-UN --> HMIU -->HMAO, HMjO, HMONG, MONG, HMU, XIONG, SEUNG, et.. in Hmong language and MIAU, MIAO, MAN etc.. in other languages. Tzexa Miv dej tshuam miv dej ua niag dej. Pajnplaimcua wrote: Does the word Suav have anything to do with Han Shu? I don't know ...

..." <ics...@yahoo.com> wrote: check this out guys. http://www.brogilbert.org/chinese_genesis/2_genesis_miao-people.HTM Tswv Yim, Tam li paub ces pab Hmoob no thiab pab siv lub npe A-Hmao no kuj yog cov ntseeg Askiv (British) Medodist tus Xibfwb Samuel Pollard tsa tau thaum 1905 yav ntawv. Tom qab no thiaj tsa tau Hmoob thawj tus Xibfwb Vaj Txawb Meem (Wang Zhiming); nws thiaj muab ...