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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: Xah
Date: Jul 31, 2008 02:57

On Jul 22, 1:23 am, Bastien Guerry <b...@altern.org> wrote: Xah <xah...@gmail.com> writes: On Jul 21, 11:59 am, Ben Aurel <ben.au...@gmail.com> wrote: hi This is my first post here, so I hope this is the right place for asking beginner questions. My question is simple: When I list some files in dired mode I select one file to edit. Now how can I close this ...
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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: p.daniels
Date: Jul 24, 2008 22:31

Sorry about the half-post. Google Groups, you are my nemesis... On Jul 22, 6:03 pm, "Juanma Barranquero" <lek...@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 18:58, Bastien Guerry <b...@altern.org> wrote: How many users are complaining about the fact that it's not easy to open and close a file with Emacs? As long as this is not a *major* problem, let's not consider whether it'...
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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: p.daniels
Date: Jul 24, 2008 21:48

On Jul 22, 6:03 pm, "Juanma Barranquero" <lek...@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 18:58, Bastien Guerry <b...@altern.org> wrote: How many users are complaining about the fact that it's not easy to open and close a file with Emacs? As long as this is not a *major* problem, let's not consider whether it's good or not to change Emacs terminology. I don't see the ...
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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: Lennart Borgman (gmail)
Date: Jul 23, 2008 08:40

Bastien wrote: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes: Bastien Guerry wrote: Consider this (RMS-ish) motto: "With great freedom comes great responsability, the responsability to defend and promote freedom." Did he really say that? respons-ability? ;-) [This message was generated by an outdated system.] I am not on ...
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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: Bastien
Date: Jul 23, 2008 08:26

"Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes: Bastien Guerry wrote: Consider this (RMS-ish) motto: "With great freedom comes great responsability, the responsability to defend and promote freedom." Did he really say that? respons-ability? ;-) [This message was generated by an outdated system.] I am not on vacation, but I am at the end of a ...
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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: Bastien Guerry
Date: Jul 23, 2008 06:49

"Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes: Bastien Guerry wrote: Consider this (RMS-ish) motto: "With great freedom comes great responsability, the responsability to defend and promote freedom." Did he really say that? respons-ability? ;-) Err, no. My french sneaking in. -- Bastien
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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: Lennart Borgman (gmail)
Date: Jul 23, 2008 06:41

Bastien Guerry wrote: Consider this (RMS-ish) motto: "With great freedom comes great responsability, the responsability to defend and promote freedom." Did he really say that? respons-ability? ;-) I would agree. But I would add the respons-ability and responsibility do defend altruism.
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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: Lennart Borgman (gmail)
Date: Jul 23, 2008 05:56

Bastien Guerry wrote: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes: Bastien wrote: If Emacs implements a feature that no other editor implements then the user is usually not fussy about the learning curve. Are you sure about that? What about if the learning time is so long that it outweight the benefits of the feature the user want? Then the user...
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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: Juanma Barranquero
Date: Jul 22, 2008 16:56

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 01:49, Bastien Guerry <bzg@altern.org> wrote: No, surely mine. I just wanted to say: if new users are not too much complaining about the terminology, let's not fix something that is not broken. OK. The trouble is, we will never now about the users that simply abandon Emacs because of the terminology. I'm not suggesting that's the only, or main, difficulty...
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Re: basic question: going back to dired     

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Author: Juanma Barranquero
Date: Jul 22, 2008 16:38

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 01:32, Bastien Guerry <bzg@altern.org> wrote: But we're not discussing about what could have been done 20 years ago, are we? Discussing the terminology today, my point is that it might be risky to "import" some terms just because they are commonly used elsewhere. If they give the right representation of the thing they refer to, why not. Well, I'm ...
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