... yet. Ed Rosen Ah, but you are: As in "from your toe-cheese on upwards". Good grief! Um....don't you mean 'Grief Olympics'? Richard Garmise You know, your gleefully 'goodnatured comment' as you sneak into hospices, and emitting your trademarked® hyaenid cacklings and guffawings at the suffering and tragedy therein. It's so *you*, Stinkie. You know.