... people because they failed to insist on carrying out the punishment... Those guilty of a crime must be punished if justice is to be done. Some retributivist theorists, but not Kant, give proposition 3 an additional twist. They argue that criminals not only ought to be punished, but indeed have a right to be punished. Sometimes this is expressed by saying that the criminal has...

..., derives from some ancient mythology, hallucination, and/or outright deception that includes a self-propagating mechanism enabling it to ossify minds across many generations. And those who willingly give themselves up to religion, thus renouncing their creator's perhaps greatest gifts of circumspection and reason, are arguably not merely fools, but sinful ones. I ...

..., derives from some ancient mythology, hallucination, and/or outright deception that includes a self-propagating mechanism enabling it to ossify minds across many generations. And those who willingly give themselves up to religion, thus renouncing their creator's perhaps greatest gifts of circumspection and reason, are arguably not merely fools, but sinful ones. I assume you ...

...meaning for you, maybe, but not for me, and not necessarily for anyone. You give away your attitude by calling all followers of religion 'fools'. That works only ...a self-propagating mechanism enabling it to ossify minds across many generations. And those who willingly give themselves up to religion, thus renouncing their creator's perhaps greatest gifts of circumspection and reason...

... crime must be punished if justice is to be done. Some retributivist theorists, but not Kant, give proposition 3 an additional twist. They argue that criminals not only ought to be punished, ... Morris has pointed out: With therapy attempts at proportionality make no sense. It is perfectly plausible giving someone who kills a pill and treating for a lifetime within an institution one who has ...

...starting gate, with the possible exception of Deists. Their beliefs are so generic and formless...the logic is, for the most part, consistent. Your assertions, which have meaning for you, maybe, but not for me, and not necessarily for anyone. You give away your attitude by calling all followers of religion 'fools'. That works only for making atheists nod their heads in agreement.

Kingo Gondo wrote: From the idiocy expressed in this thread you'd think so. Some come to bury Caesar, not to praise him-- And, in similar vein, emphasizing the helpful-distinction importance of giving (credit/blame) to Caesar what is Caesar's, and...well, you know. :) Derek Janssen ejanss@comcast.net

..., Derek sits there taking notes on what they are wearing, who their girlfriends are, how much money they're spending, how late or early they get in, of if they stay out. Then he gives his important reports and thinks he's influencing their lives, or at least making them feel guilty for not registering proper levels of cool. He has a shelf of notebooks full of his data and research...

...Are you accepted into the brotherhood and can now go forth and preach this gospel yourself? Good point, athiests do a lot of preaching for those who should have nothing to preach! Really? Give us an example... And, of course, christians never do that... Moron. This thread is full of examples of Athiests preaching there's no God. Do I need to put...

... the brotherhood and can now go forth and preach this gospel yourself? Good point, athiests do a lot of preaching for those who should have nothing to preach! Really? Give us an example... And, of course, christians never do that... Moron. This thread is full of examples of Athiests preaching there's no God. Do I need to put a ...