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Mark Chirnside wrote: > On Apr 19, 12:24 am, Daniel Allen Butler <thequilldri...@aol.com> > wrote: > >>even if her seams had been triple rather than double riveted as >>Gartzke suggests they should have been, they still would have failed. > > > I'm hopeful that Tim will see this thread and weigh in, and we can > have an interesting and productive discussion: an open debate, based     

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Author: Grumpy AuContraire
Date: Apr 19, 2008 17:09

On Apr 19, 12:24 am, Daniel Allen Butler <thequilldri...@aol.com> wrote: even if her seams had been triple rather than double riveted as Gartzke suggests they should have been, they still would have failed. I'm hopeful that Tim will see this thread and weigh in, and we can have an interesting and productive discussion: an open debate, based on sound reasoning and evidence. All too few of
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> Incidentally, one of the co-authors, Tim Foecke, used to be a regular > contributor to this group. > > > > >Regards > > >Doug Urquhart Yeah, this is the same old spiel that Foecke was spouting ten years ago, on this very newsgroup, among other places. Frankly, it's still bullshit. The case for "weak and/or defective rivets" is no more convincing now than it was then. When rivets that     

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Author: Mark Chirnside
Date: Apr 19, 2008 03:33

Europe Cheers Ulf Gartzke The Weekly Standard, Nov 13, 2006 http://news.yahoo.com/s/weeklystandard/20061113/cm_weeklystandard/europecheers TODAY, Europeans are sighing in relief. Americans, they believe, have finally come to their senses and are beginning to put the Democrats back in charge. Back in 2000--and even more so in 2004--Europeans were shocked and disappointed that
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Sergey Ruzhitskiy <Sergey.Ruzhitskiy@p237.f12000.n5020.z2.fido.cca.usart.ru> писал по поводу "Hакипело" SR>А почему я ? Это же ты тут корреляцию с развитием демократии и SR>уровнем жизни проводишь. и про "развитую" и пр. тоже твое... SR>Мое лишь - ну не так все это...Как счастье не коррелирует, так SR>и богатство (Бруней тот же) Весьма любопытная корреляция, правда между несколько другими     

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Author: Daniel Allen Butler
Date: Apr 18, 2008 16:24

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Author: John Manning
Date: Nov 14, 2006 13:49

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Author: Serg Markov
Date: Jul 27, 2006 21:20

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