Marcel Hendrix wrote: From: Dennis Ruffer <druffer@speakeasy.net> Organization: ex IntellaSys, Inc. .... the question came Re: Forth as an operating system ... [..] Theories are *never* proven true. Sometimes they are proven false. The closest you can come to proving a theory true is to ...

From: Dennis Ruffer <druffer@speakeasy.net> Organization: ex IntellaSys, Inc. ... the question came Re: Forth as an operating system ... [..] Theories are *never* proven true. Sometimes they are proven false. The closest you can come to proving a theory true is to collect a bunch of ...

... my statement on the assumption that 'Forth' discussions should include Chuck's work ... I do stomp into so called 'Forth' discussions that assume that those things ... not experience. I assume you mean Forth. No, I mean SEAforth. Yet, ...>>> I had read "Forth as an operating system" as the title ...that subject rather than which products FORTH INC. chose as their products and...

...12:18 pm, Elizabeth D Rather <erather...@forth.com> wrote: And I am most definitely.... Got it. Not your product not FORTH INC. Jeff, I have been trying to...entire thread has been about conventional microprocessors, I had read "Forth as an operating system" as the title and wrongly assumed that the ...> that subject rather than which products FORTH INC. chose as their products and ...

...18 pm, Elizabeth D Rather <erather...@forth.com> wrote: describing common multitasking ok...us back to the Forth as an Operating System thread but what fun...to have said anything outside the FORTH INC. product range. By assuming that...You use the words conventional and Forth Inc. product interchangably in this context... chose to call conventional. Hey Forth isn't conventional. Shouldn't we...

...is a major omission which precludes Forth (SwiftX?) from widespread appliance adoption as in cell phones. Having put Forth on a phone, I think I... out of style). Phones use operating systems, so that's all defined...the whole issue of Forth as an operating system is not about whether... TCP/IP stack, two file systems, and a GUI. But we ... be ready to build a Forth phone from the ground up....

... monitor task in an otherwise cooperative system, or a push button or key ... we accept as normal a computer operating system that takes _minutes_ to boot ... blurred somewhat. I suspect a cooperative system with preemptive hang-prevention won't...be any simpler than a preemptive system though. There are other reasons I...destroy the atomic nature of (most) Forth words. Just my 2 pence worth...

...> exist nor that general purpose operating systems should not worry about hacks..., incompetence, students trying to crash systems for fun" etc may reasonably be...purpose OS and the purpose-built system. It could be one difference yet...review and testing into a production system. Suppose that bug results in failure... Bailey has been supporting native Forth ftp /mail servers for about ...

...not exist nor that general purpose operating systems should not worry about hacks..., incompetence, students trying to crash systems for fun" etc may reasonably be...purpose OS and the purpose-built system. It could be one difference yet...review and testing into a production system. Suppose that bug results in failure...Greg Bailey has been supporting native Forth ftp /mail servers for about 15...

...you point out, protection mechanisms (like watchdogs) are just as useful for cooperative systems when your concern is reliability instead of the fiction that you can know for ..., then *that* is the problem. I cringe when I have to work with someone who thinks the operating system will protect them from themselves. And I cringe just the same from comments here that testing will find all...