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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:09:35 -0500, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >David Lesher wrote: >>> Remember, you don't have to check every person, just enough to make >>> evasion not worth the risk. >> >> Again, only if the rider knows that. Are you saying the rider won't know he/she needs a ticket to ride? Surely, everyone knows that. Whether or not the rider knows someone may     

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Author: Hatunen
Date: Sep 16, 2008 10:30

David Lesher wrote: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes: He doesn't need to know. If she's in zone F, and her ticket/pass is valid for zone F, there is no violation. She'll be checked in zones A-C some other time -- or she might be checked multiple times per trip, if that's how it works out. So much for how many people/hr a checker handles... The point
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Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes: >He doesn't need to know. If she's in zone F, and her ticket/pass is >valid for zone F, there is no violation. She'll be checked in zones A-C >some other time -- or she might be checked multiple times per trip, if >that's how it works out. So much for how many people/hr a checker handles... >> Perhaps, but you are lengthening her trip time     

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Author: Stephen Sprunk
Date: Sep 16, 2008 10:09

Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> writes: How do you check? She boarded at A, headed for G. You check at F; she has a $2 ticket that was legal only if she boarded at D. How does the checker even know where she started? He doesn't on that sweep. But another time a checker may check at B or C. So one check is NOT enough to detect the fraud... Ahh, so she must buy a ticket every day before
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David Lesher wrote: > Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes: >> You do not need to check between every pair of stations, or at every >> zone boundary, on a POP system. Checks are random and only need to be >> sufficient that the penalty for evading times the odds of getting caught >> is greater than the additional fare. > > How do you check? She boarded at A, headed for G. You check     

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Author: David Lesher
Date: Sep 15, 2008 22:53

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:06:38 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes: You do not need to check between every pair of stations, or at every zone boundary, on a POP system. Checks are random and only need to be sufficient that the penalty for evading times the odds of getting caught is greater than the additional fare.
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Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes: >You do not need to check between every pair of stations, or at every >zone boundary, on a POP system. Checks are random and only need to be >sufficient that the penalty for evading times the odds of getting caught >is greater than the additional fare. How do you check? She boarded at A, headed for G. You check at F; she has a $2 ticket     

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Author: David Lesher
Date: Sep 15, 2008 22:34

David Lesher wrote: Richard Mlynarik <Mly@POBox.COM> writes: There's nothing but institutional inertia and contractor kickbacks stopping BART from instituting a barrier-free proof-of-payment system with exactly the same tariff it has today (ie fare valid for one single journey between two specific stations) just as there is no barrier to doing so with one, two, five, ten or twenty
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Richard Mlynarik <Mly@POBox.COM> writes: >There's nothing but institutional inertia and contractor kickbacks >stopping BART from instituting a barrier-free proof-of-payment system >with exactly the same tariff it has today (ie fare valid for one single >journey between two specific stations) just as there is no barrier to >doing so with one, two, five, ten or twenty zones with tickets valid     

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Author: Stephen Sprunk
Date: Sep 15, 2008 18:57

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Author: Hatunen
Date: Sep 15, 2008 18:27

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Author: David Lesher
Date: Sep 15, 2008 12:06

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Author: Stephen Sprunk
Date: Sep 15, 2008 09:31

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Author: David Lesher
Date: Sep 15, 2008 09:13

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Author: Linonut
Date: Aug 3, 2008 12:35

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