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Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)     

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Author: Russ Allbery
Date: Sep 19, 2008 11:40

...<mjr@phonecoop.coop> writes: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> wrote: It most certainly is not. I can attest ...been involved in and followed multiple FSF projects for many years. It is ...that I think that sites like badvista.fsf.org are counter-productive. Oh, okay,.... Sorry about that. -- Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> ...
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Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)     

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Author: MJ Ray
Date: Sep 19, 2008 03:20

...<mjr@phonecoop.coop> writes: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> wrote: [...] the rule that the FSF has about not linking to any non-free software from their sites, [...] That rule is a ... on some aspects of freedom. I'm not bad-mouthing the competition. [...] Sorry, I ...that I think that sites like badvista.fsf.org are counter-productive. Hope that clarifies...
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Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)     

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Author: MJ Ray
Date: Sep 18, 2008 03:30

...position is that he would like Debian to follow something like the rule that the FSF has about not linking to any ... campaign sites like http://badvista.fsf.org and http://www.defectivebydesign.... have links to and about non-free software - with commentary, but ... thread count as debian.org mentioning non-free.org? If so,... Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://...
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Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)     

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Author: Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Date: Sep 17, 2008 01:40

...and few money. Thus, the debian.org site and the software...do this, but I did not succeed. Translated to the current...part of the website or Debian would be doing this for...create the non-free.org, it should help Debian to better...policies". Endorsement of FSF is good, but not so important. Anyway...method to push writing/improving free alternatives (or forcing protocol designed...
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Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)     

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Author: Joey Schulze
Date: Sep 17, 2008 00:00

...-free. Richard Stallman wrote: Thus, the debian.org site and the software in it should not refer to the existence of non-...>> I tried for years to convince Debian to do this, but I did not succeed. Translated to the current way ... what part of the website or Debian would be doing this for years, ...-free is mentioned on packages.debian.org non-free is mentioned in release ...
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Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)     

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Author: Russ Allbery
Date: Sep 16, 2008 22:10

...s position is that he would like Debian to follow something like the rule ... FSF has about not linking to any non-free software from their sites,... that the "free Debian" projects are a sign of the FSF wasting resources on this in any ... on their own and asked for FSF blessing for. They look to me ... much attention to. -- Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>...
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FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)     

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Author: Filipus Klutiero
Date: Sep 16, 2008 22:00

... is the domain name hosting non-free. Richard Stallman wrote: Thus, the debian.org site and the software in it should not refer to the existence of non-free.org ... I tried for years to convince Debian to do this, but I did not succeed. Translated to the current way things are...very curious what part of the website or Debian would be doing this for years, but ...
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Re: Re: Mentions of non-free (Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free)     

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Author: Filipus Klutiero
Date: Sep 17, 2008 12:10

...> I'm very curious what part of the website or Debian would be doing this for years, but I guess someone could ask Richard. non-free is mentioned on packages.debian.org Does the mentions suggest getting software from there? ... the installer for users to add (I think) It's not mentioned normally at least. Is it mentioned in expert ...
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Re: Mentions of non-free (Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free)     

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Author: Joey Schulze
Date: Sep 17, 2008 11:40

...> I'm very curious what part of the website or Debian would be doing this for years, but I guess someone could ask Richard. non-free is mentioned on packages.debian.org Does the mentions suggest getting software from there? There are... the installer for users to add (I think) It's not mentioned normally at least. Is it mentioned in expert installs?...
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Mentions of non-free (Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free)     

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Author: Filipus Klutiero
Date: Sep 17, 2008 10:10

...'m very curious what part of the website or Debian would be doing this for years, but I guess someone could ask Richard. non-free is mentioned on packages.debian.org Does the mentions suggest getting software from there? non-free is mentioned in release documentation Does the... for users to add (I think) It's not mentioned normally at least. Is it mentioned in ...
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