On Sep 20, 12:35 am, "Sunny" <wombatlo...@gmail.com> wrote: I ...www.marketwatch.com/news/story/setting-record-straight-f-35/story.aspx?guid=%%7B9612939F-4BC3-4FEF-9EC5...even address air-to-air combat effectiveness. The F-35 is required to be able to ...-to-air threats. All available information, at the highest classification, indicates that F-35 is effectively meeting these aggressive operational ...

"Spartan613" <spamsux@pissoff.com> wrote in message news:8SDAk.37551$IK1.7409@news-server.bigpond.net.au... You're not interested in the capabilities of the platforms, it's all about politics for you. Isn't that what led to the F-35 being selected in the first place? -- Kwyj.

...> Well, over the years, F-14s, F-15s, F-16s, and F-18's have all been criticized for being over-priced ...> From what I've seen so far, the F-22 and F-35 will carry on ...(just like the F111 was never a fighter), the ADVs are ... need fighters *right now.* The F/A-18s aren't too ... And what, exactly, was the F-18's contribution in East ... He had access to 6 F-111s, with about 4 days'-...

...:32 pm, Airyx <ewein...@attbi.com> wrote: Given the lack of information on the F-35, the best we can do is extrapolate from what the F-22 has shown so far, and its looking like ...the lifetime of these two aircraft. No, they've already done the studies on the F-35 "Helpless Seal Cub". http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2008/09/11/1220857689496.html ...

...2:32 pm, Airyx <ewein...@attbi.com> wrote: Given the lack of information on the F-35, the best we can do is extrapolate from what the F-22 has shown so far, and its looking like ... the lifetime of these two aircraft. No, they've already done the studies on the F-35 "Helpless Seal Cub". http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2008/09/11/1220857689496.html WA ...

... Su35 *before* breakfast. The Su-35 has breakfast in close, but ...I am guessing? (I know Su-35 is sweet in close, I ... it. If the "virtually unarmed" F-35 can go undetected and ... win the fight. The Su-35 can have a bunch of ... batmobile capabilities of the proposed F-35 is really amusing. The ... they have that with the F-22. I tend to agree.... Su-30MKI, JL-XX, Su-35, are all in the area ...

...and MiG 31. The F-35 is never going to make...falling off.... -------------------------------------- Bad glue causes F-22A mishap By Stephen Trimble...to replace. The Pentagon currently plans to buy 181 copies of...product . In the end the F-18 got it’s electronic...Dirty Dozen, saw judgment day coming. For now, a spendthrift Australian...of those in Parliament) right along to what may be certain...

... 4.5 fighters will wipe the F-35 from the sky. "Oh but .... The early deployments of the F-22 have made it very clear,...demonstrated that a small number of F-22s can sustian air superiority over...outnumbered over 20 - 1. Given the lack of information on the F-35, the best we can do is extrapolate from what the F-22 has shown so far, ...please do. Otherwise, I don't plan to respond to you again.

... eat the Su35 *before* breakfast. The Su-35 has breakfast in close, but the F35 ...the data on the close fighting data. F-35 will have vectoring, I am guessing? (I know Su-35 is sweet in close, I am not.... But I haven't seen this data.) If the "virtually unarmed" F-35 can go undetected and detect the Su-35 before the Su-35 knows...bays to win the fight. The Su-35 can have a bunch of missiles on...

...> Well, over the years, F-14s, F-15s, F-16s, and F-18's have all been criticized for being over-priced and under ...> From what I've seen so far, the F-22 and F-35 will carry on the same tradition. If they need Fighters, why ... fighters (just like the F111 was never a fighter), the ADVs are interceptors built... they need fighters *right now.* The F/A-18s aren't too shabby ...