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Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision     

Group: linux.debian.project · Group Profile · Search for Expulsion process Sven Luther Decision in linux.debian.project
Author: Sven Luther
Date: Mar 30, 2007 10:10

... it as an act of vengeance of a few who wanted to get ride of me, or as a stupid decision which fails to achieve its goal, and hurt me by doing so. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
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Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision     

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Author: Thaddeus H. Black
Date: Mar 30, 2007 08:50

...: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Sven Luther wrote: [...] because i was not ...'m sitting probably next to the expulsion chair and I know many DDs ..., but that is neither an expulsion matter nor a matter I understand ..., lost, and shut up. In Sven's instance ... well, never mind; we've already discussed Sven's case enough. Suffice it to say ... two years or so has stood Sven's (whom I do not dislike...
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Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision     

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Author: Brian May
Date: Mar 29, 2007 19:20

>>>>> "Sven" == Sven Luther <sven@powerlinux.fr> writes: Sven> But this is Debian, not life, and we are all here because we Sven> share something great and good, and thus i expected better. Yes, This is Debian. Yes, we haven't met your expectations. I am sure you are not alone here. Consider this a promotion. Find a better project that does meet ...
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Author: Sven Luther
Date: Mar 29, 2007 14:10

... +0200, Sven Luther wrote: ...<snip>... I would have gladly accepted any decision, provided it was a fair one, but... ? And do you deny that the expulsion is an act of rejection, because ... parties. Do you deny that this decision, which happened because the project is unable ...From my perspective, the parties are: A) Sven, B) the software in the archive, ...
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Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision     

Group: linux.debian.project · Group Profile · Search for Expulsion process Sven Luther Decision in linux.debian.project
Author: Richard Hecker
Date: Mar 29, 2007 13:10

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 19:27 +0000, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2007-03-29, Sven Luther <sven@powerlinux.fr> wrote: Do you deny that rejection is an act of hate ? I do. Obviously, I do too! Rejection is many things that in many cases is not hate. It might be dislikement, it might be lack of skills or just bad ...
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Author: Kevin Mark
Date: Mar 29, 2007 12:30

... Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:20:42AM -0700..., Sven Luther wrote: ...<snip>... I would have gladly accepted any decision, provided it was a fair one,...And do you deny that the expulsion is an act of rejection, .... Do you deny that this decision, which happened because the project is...my perspective, the parties are: A) Sven, B) the software in the archive...
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Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision     

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Author: Sune Vuorela
Date: Mar 29, 2007 12:30

On 2007-03-29, Sven Luther <sven@powerlinux.fr> wrote: Do you deny that rejection is an act of hate ? I do. Rejection is many things that in many cases is not hate. It might be dislikement, it might be lack of skills or just bad communication. None of these is what I would consider hate. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST@lists...
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Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision     

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Author: Sven Luther
Date: Mar 29, 2007 11:40

...0200, Sven Luther wrote: ...<snip>... I would have gladly accepted any decision, provided it was a fair one,... And do you deny that the expulsion is an act of rejection, .... Do you deny that this decision, which happened because the project is...is there to help you. This process has been repeated over and over...that half those calling for my expulsion do daily. Can you explain to...
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Author: Richard Hecker
Date: Mar 29, 2007 10:30

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 07:07 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: ...<snip>... I would have gladly accepted any decision, provided it was a fair one, but this one-sidedness is what caused all of ... your fellow DDs, you feign surprise that no one is there to help you. This process has been repeated over and over again. Many have tried to help you and offer advice...
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Author: Sven Luther
Date: Mar 28, 2007 12:41

...Sukrieh wrote: * Sven Luther (sven@powerlinux.fr) : I wanted that the expulsion be...because i had behaved or not. Sven, this _is_ all about your behaviour... breached. OTOH, what I think Sven meant is that he wanted ... question would be not "should Sven be excluded from Debian", but rather "do the actions that Sven performed at that time provide ...
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