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Re: Emacs usability (was: Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus)     

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Author: Eli Zaretskii
Date: Aug 12, 2008 11:29

> From: Xah <xahlee@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:37:52 -0700 (PDT) That's from “The Art of Unix Usability” by Eric S Raymond. These cult-like books are rather snake oil. Aha, and your so-called ``tutorials'' are, of course anything _but_ cult-like.
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Re: Emacs usability     

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Author: Xah
Date: Aug 12, 2008 07:48

...gmail.com> wrote: Ted Zlatanov wrote: The usability metrics (fairly standard in the industry) are ...> That's from “The Art of Unix Usability” by Eric S Raymond. These cult-... What's important is the list of usability metrics as it applies to Emacs; if you disagree with that list then ... on issues such as software intereface and usability, in my opinion, are for example: •...
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Re: Emacs usability     

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Author: Ted Zlatanov
Date: Aug 12, 2008 07:17

... "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote: In effect, Emacs is more of a programming language than a normal user application as far as usability goes. Yes, but it could be more. We agree. Let... specific things that can be improved, and have that discussion in emacs-devel for the benefit of the developers that don't follow this...
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Author: Ted Zlatanov
Date: Aug 12, 2008 07:14

...) Xah <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote: Ted Zlatanov wrote: The usability metrics (fairly standard in the industry) are listed in ... - discoverable That's from “The Art of Unix Usability” by Eric S Raymond. These cult-like books are ... that's irrelevant. What's important is the list of usability metrics as it applies to Emacs; if you disagree with that list then provide a better ...
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Re: Emacs usability (was: Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus)     

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Author: Xah
Date: Aug 12, 2008 00:37

...:14 pm, "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borg...@gmail.com> wrote: Ted Zlatanov wrote: The usability metrics (fairly standard in the industry) are listed in http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/...- transparent - scriptable - discoverable That's from “The Art of Unix Usability” by Eric S Raymond. These cult-like books are rather snake oil. For example, renowned computer...
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Author: Lennart Borgman (gmail)
Date: Aug 11, 2008 15:14

Ted Zlatanov wrote: The usability metrics (fairly standard in the industry) are listed in... - scriptable - discoverable An interesting list. Emacs is concise, expressive, transparent, and scriptable. Yes,.... This is a fundamental problem. In effect, Emacs is more of a programming language than a normal user application as far as usability goes. Yes, but it could be more....
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Emacs usability (was: Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus)     

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Author: Ted Zlatanov
Date: Aug 11, 2008 13:57

The usability metrics (fairly standard in the industry) are listed in http://www.catb.org... the sense of "mnemonic load") - transparent - scriptable - discoverable Emacs is concise, expressive, transparent, and scriptable. It's ... documentation (manuals, tutorials, or books). In effect, Emacs is more of a programming language than a normal user application as far as usability goes. Ted
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Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up?     

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Author: Nikolaj Schumacher
Date: Sep 20, 2008 03:51

... entry for "New buffer" in the "Buffers" menu. • Emacs does not provide a user level function to create a... my computer do.) So in the context of Emacs, the correct name would probably be "New buffer".... in the scratch buffer, which is lost if Emacs crashes. All this, however, is no reason to ... buffer). The scratch buffer itself isn't a usability problem. It's limitations are. So, if ...
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Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up?     

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Author: Alan Mackenzie
Date: Sep 20, 2008 01:11

... with respect to, say, programers. Emacs is intended for programmers, though it...on the article ( http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_scratch_buffer.html ) I've had a... is [an] important aspect of ... usability". This is confused thinking. Merely by... bearing on how usable the software is. Emacs is supremely easy ... mode for untitled buffer to emacs lisp mode. Or, more precisely,...
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Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up?     

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Author: Allan Gottlieb
Date: Sep 19, 2008 18:53

...: «I think the existance of the lisp scratch buffer is one of the major usability problem of emacs that prevents emacs from being widely adopted by most text editing audience.» Ironically, I...I *will* now bind to C-c C-r. Thanks! What version of emacs are you using? What happens if you are in a gnus summary buffer ...
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