On Jul 30, 9:32 am, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote: A drunk passenger attacked a member of staff, Jerome Bowes, on New Year's Eve and this led to his sacking. Why ... the feeling this isn't quite the _whole_ story...? Reads to me that the drunk passenger was the one who was sacked, which knowing the RMT has every chance of being right. Heh. ...

Paul Weaver <usenet@isorox.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: A drunk passenger attacked a member of staff, Jerome Bowes, on New Year's Eve and this led to  his sacking. ... feeling this isn't quite the _whole_ story...? Reads to me that the drunk passenger was the one who was sacked, which knowing the RMT has every...

...: DaveKnight <Dave.Knight44SPAMT...@yahoo.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: A drunk passenger attacked a member of staff, Jerome Bowes, on New Year's Eve and this led to  his ...this isn't quite the _whole_ story...? Reads to me that the drunk passenger was the one who was sacked, which knowing the RMT ...

DaveKnight <Dave.Knight44SPAMTRAP@yahoo.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: A drunk passenger attacked a member of staff, Jerome Bowes, on New Year's Eve and this led to his sacking. Why do I get the feeling this isn't quite the _whole_ story...?

... in there about "bringing LUL into disrepute" or "altercation with a passenger" or similar catch all phrases that don't take into account...I mean, if the chap in question had been accused of attacking $FAMOUS_PERSON, or indeed had made a complaint at all rather than ...about the situation, this is an occasion where my cynicism definitely leads me in favour of LU and not of sacked chap... --...

...... No doubt like most companies the rules for gross misconduct are vague and open to interpretation however is expedient at the time. Probably theres some clauses in there about "bringing LUL into disrepute" or "altercation with a passenger" or similar catch all phrases that don't take into account being nutted by a psycho and having to defend yourself while doing your job. B2003

... in other words he couldn't have been that badly injured ...which makes it OK to attack him? Don't put words in my mouth. If it had been a vicious assault by a member ... could be nicked. ...which means the force used against him was reasonable? Quite possibly if he attacked the staff member first. Why should being in a specific type of job prevent you from defending yourself? ...

... So in other words he couldn't have been that badly injured ...which makes it OK to attack him? or was feeling guilty and legged it before he could be nicked. ...which means the force ...giving the public servant some verbal grief before he hit me... Just because I think LUL see passengers as nothing more than cattle to milk for money doesn't mean I approve of assaulting their ...

... if someone had assaulted you - especially a public servant - and you felt you were the innocent party wouldn't you hang around until plod turned up? Just because I think LUL see passengers as nothing more than cattle to milk for money doesn't mean I approve of assaulting their staff! There seem to be no facts available at all about LU's reason for sacking the member of staff,...

...accepting this particular LUL employee's story without question, innit? Look at it this way , if someone had assaulted you - especially a public servant - and you felt you were the innocent party wouldn't you hang around until plod turned up? Just because I think LUL see passengers as nothing more than cattle to milk for money doesn't mean I approve of assaulting their staff! B2003