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Re: Democracy does not exist in the Modern World     

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Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Oct 20, 2007 07:40

...A majority wanted a dictator, if not the Nazis, then the communists. ... the principle and it is not made any better that the ...that it says "Democracy does not exist in the modern world". It ... are democrats, that they support democracy, that they are trying to ... they are fighting wars for democracy, etc., when they obviously aren't... that some element of direct democracy might have its uses, at ...
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Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Oct 10, 2007 07:27

...> wrote: True, but how many modern nations have 25,000 rulers? ... and must agree. Democracy does not exist in our modern world. To me...for this war is to export "Democracy"!!! So an undemocratic government like the...grounds of turning Iraq into a Democracy !!!???? Possibly, under these circumstances, a ...of government from representative to direct democracy. I haven't gotten much ...
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Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Nov 17, 2007 19:23

.... I'm arguing for democracy in the modern sense of the word...>пїЅI am trying to understand democracy, to get beyond the nonsensical ... dumbing down the public about democracy for decades. пїЅI think ancient ... best argument in favor of democracy. пїЅ But ancient Athens was never a democracy, certainly not in the modern sense of ... Greeks in ages of equality, not because they were democratic but ...
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Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Nov 11, 2007 15:05

..., which has had a remarably homogeneous culture for millennia, and does not have an immigration problem or .... We'll see what Wall Street does this week in the face of ... farm policy is set by lawyers, not farmers. And farmers damn well better ...> they need even if there's not enuf gas for the lawyer's ... mandate to do anything. Is that democracy? oligarchy? It looks a lot like ...
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Author: Day Brown
Date: Nov 10, 2007 18:03

... China, which has had a remarably homogeneous culture for millennia, and does not have an immigration problem or India... We'll see what Wall Street does this week in the face of ... farm policy is set by lawyers, not farmers. And farmers damn well better ... they need even if there's not enuf gas for the lawyer's ... mandate to do anything. Is that democracy? oligarchy? It looks a lot like ...
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Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Nov 7, 2007 10:13

... must be "fascist". This is not the case. Fascism is fairly ...In both situations corporations were not in control of the government...inner kingdon" that runs China does not and _can not_ be...whatever they wanted. It's not just that fascists let the...Chinese are now having are not economic but environmental and social...be simply "Government". You are not anti-Marxist. You are anti...
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Author: Day Brown
Date: Nov 2, 2007 00:25

...so people could improve society and not just exploit it, but with people...national forest and watersheds (which provide world record holding trout) has been ...Be exceedingly careful of exposure to modern contaminants in the air, food, ... as that mite be, is not going to provide healthy food. ...items the rich have are just not that useful. It'd be ...as well. In any case, it does not do any good to ...
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Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Oct 31, 2007 13:50

> The fact that Plato didn't like Democracy is not necessarily a decisive point. His master, Socrates, adored it. Ancient Greece was never democratic and by the ...a decadent aristocracy. All Socrates did was ridicule the place. . . . People are afraid of democracy because of its power. It is extremely powerful. That's why referenda ...
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Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Oct 31, 2007 13:25

...to see how the Colbert campaign does; if enough people realize what a...> ignorance all conspire to render democracy an instrument of suicide. Our ...chose a supposedly "fixed" form of "democracy" instead - the law- makers heavily ... Plato didn't like Democracy is not necessarily a decisive point. ... their direct democracy! Athens was the richest city the world has ...
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Author: Day Brown
Date: Oct 29, 2007 22:14

...or bankruptcy concentrates the mind in the same way a pending execution does. So, as the middle class asset base shrinks to further enrich ... that the financial sector has realized bankrupting its customer base is not a good idea... is heartening. But the long record of ... & postings, listen to NPR while I work outside. What else can you do? Rational discourse does not work with neurotics.
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