On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:11:00 -0500, "bayskater" <efhunter@nospamcomcast.net> wrote: "John Briggs" <john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:I7oHh.30233$mn2.3903@newsfe7-win.ntli.net... Mad Snail wrote: "John Dean" wrote: I didn't know there *was* a new meaning. I still think the phrase as used is nonsense. If English is not the author's first language, that