On Aug 5, 10:23 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote: Nonetheless, the dilemma has a smack of plausibility about it. When can art have meaning without being propaganda? That is the proper question to examine. By art, we are looking primarily at narrative fiction. Music or painting clearly does not depend on having "meaning" to be worthwhile. By meaning, clearly this refers to...

..., I think the real question is whether we can get a limerick out of - : Is This an Artistic Dilemma? Balthazar, Rosetta, and Sienna? With Balthazar I could, And Rosetta I would, But I'd very much ... Love_, since one of the men is played by Sienna Miller (pardon?) Or, Is This an Artistic Dilemma? On show, and once seized in Vienna By the Nazi regime, Is a diptych obscene Of Lord ...

... "description", or isn't satisfied with that alone, then the dilemma doesn't seem to be describing art, exactly, and if it does then the second leg of the dilemma seems to fall down. Simple description is fundamental but simple art;... his unfinished classic _Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion_). Nonetheless, the dilemma has a smack of plausibility about it. -- ...

... "description", or isn't satisfied with that alone, then the dilemma doesn't seem to be describing art, exactly, and if it does then the second leg of the dilemma seems to fall down. Simple description is fundamental but simple art...his unfinished classic _Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion_). Nonetheless, the dilemma has a smack of plausibility about it. ...

... nonsense, nor poor art. I defy anyone to argue plausibly that Bach's "Art of the Fugue" is not art, nor to suggest plausibly what position it is an argument for. Thus i find the "Dilemma" a false one. However, there have long been those who think that the only worthy art is that which is "relevant" which makes some sort of philosophical, political, or moral statement or argument. And on...

Art is what is decided by historians, critics, curators. Art and Meaning is not EVEN a dilemma.

.... Art is meaning. 'Intention' may be a better term here. Propaganda is a loaded word. It usually is tied to politics. Is this the association you want to make? Discussions about the definition of art, I suggest, have little real meaning and a forced dilemma. Do not think about art, do it. "Yes, but is it art"? "This aRt =======================>>>>> is..... BUT?

... "description", or isn't satisfied with that alone, then the dilemma doesn't seem to be describing art, exactly, and if it does then the second leg of the dilemma seems to fall down. Simple description is fundamental but simple art; ... his unfinished classic _Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion_). Nonetheless, the dilemma has a smack of plausibility about it. -- ...

..."description", or isn't satisfied with that alone, then the dilemma doesn't seem to be describing art, exactly, and if it does then the second leg of the dilemma seems to fall down. Simple description is fundamental but simple ... introducing his unfinished classic _Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion_). Nonetheless, the dilemma has a smack of plausibility about it. -- The best...

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